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FloatingWaffles said:

As a lot kind of expected it was a hollow remark given how ridiculously dumb that would be to do in response to this situation, but this makes me feel bad for them and shows how shitty of a situation this is all around.

On one hand I can see why people don't want to support the decision with Epic games, perhaps they are hoping that by not supporting it other publishers will take notice that being moneyhatted by Epic games isn't the good choice to make, but then on the other that just punishes the developers hard work who had no control in the situation. But then also by choosing to still buy the game on PC to support the devs maybe it gives off a sign to other publishers that taking away games from Steam just because Epic payed is fine. It's tough.

I think the best action for PC gamers who are interested in Metro Exodus but also want to make a statement against such practices is to buy the game when it releases on Steam, at least that's what I will probably do.



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Ka-pi96 said:
MrWayne said:

I think the best action for PC gamers who are interested in Metro Exodus but also want to make a statement against such practices is to buy the game when it releases on Steam, at least that's what I will probably do.

Not really. That would just show them they can do timed exclusive deals like this and just pick up more sales at full price later on. That lets them have their cake and eat it. No loss in sales due to the exclusivity (they just have to wait a year for a bunch of them) and they get the moneyhat too.

Best to wait until it's on sale on Steam instead. Then you can still support them but also show them that they're getting less money than if they'd been willing to sell it to you on Steam day 1.

People buy games on Steam for full price? O.o
If that's true than I should have framed my comment differently.

jokes aside, I would wait for a discount if they want the full price one year after the game released on the other platforms but It even hurts the publisher to wait one year for the revenue from Steam.



gergroy said:
I don’t really understand the big deal here... you have to go to a different store front. It’s like complaining that you have to go to Walmart instead of GameStop... but once you have purchased the game you own it and are done with the store... it’s on your pc...

You aren't done with the store. It will be there every time you intend to play your game... And probably other games that don't even use the store... And probably when you turn your computer on, resulting in boot-up bloat that slows everything down.

Hynad said:

So Steam is the only store that can ever exist to game on PC?

Of course not. But engaging in Anti-Consumer practices isn't the best way to offer competition to Steam.
Win consumers over by offering a compelling product and not trying to strong-arm them into submission.

DreadPirateRoberts said:

I think 99% of people whining about it only care because they have Steam and only want Steam.  So is a game being exclusive to another store a problem? No more than a game being exclusive to Steam is. So if that is really your complaint, then I hope you are being consistent about it.  

People are mad because their having to face a trifling inconvenience of opening another launcher is more important to them than Valve abusing its market position to gouge the devs out of millions of dollars is.

No. Consumers are "mad" because they decided to vote with their wallets and not support said game on yet another digital distribution platform... And were essentially blackmailed/threatened over it... Rather than have the company simply listen to what consumers wanted.

Why couldn't they simply do a Day 1 release on all digital distribution platforms? It's the PC.




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Why should they be forced to publish on steam? If I wanted to play Anthem on pc I would buy it where its avaliable steam fanboys are laughable. Can't wait for alternative game stores to grow. Boycotting a game because its not on steam 



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CGI-Quality said:
Yep, and as expected (and in addition), 4A is distancing themselves from the 'scynet' post...

The recent decision to move Metro Exodus from Steam to the Epic Game Store was made by Koch Media / Deep Silver alone.

The recent comments made by a member of the 4A Games development team do not reflect Deep Silver’s or 4A Games’ view on the future of the franchise. They do reflect the hurt and disappointment of a passionate individual who has seen what was previously nothing but positive goodwill towards his work turn to controversy due to a business decision he had no control over. We respectfully ask that any and all valid feedback over this decision is directed at Koch Media / Deep Silver, and not the developers at 4A Games.

The future release strategy of the Metro series lies with Koch Media / Deep Silver. Our decision to partner with Epic Games was based on the goal of investing in the future of the series and our development partner at 4A Games. We have every intention of continuing this franchise, and a PC version will always be at the heart of our plans.

Is it 4A games,because upon reading it it sounds like Koch media saying blame us not 4A,just look at this wording "Our decision to partner with Epic Games was based on the goal of investing in the future and our development partner at 4A games."



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This thread is a prime example of why we'll never see PC gamers being welcomed here, nor growing as a part of the community.

Aside from that, I'm still not happy with how the response turned out. It still feels like "oh we fucked up, but we're kinda sorry/not sorry".

The devs knew what they signed up for with this. The publisher also knew what they were doing, the devs could simply take a stand if they truly cared about the consumer, but they didn't, instead they let one dev vent and got him to pipe down, while trying to PR their way out of an issue they caused themselves, while also trying to "share" the sentiments of the so called dev they try to "distance" themselves from. It just reeks of a hollow, half arsed apology. Especially the "PC gamers at heart" part, I've heard enough of that PR from the likes of EA, Ubisoft and MS.

That being said, I'm still leaning on the "why should I even buy this at all" fence, due to all this, due to Epic trying to fuck over the consumer, and Deep Silver just going for the moneyhat.



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Peh said:
Hynad said:

1. So Steam is the only store that can ever exist to game on PC?

2. It’s the end of the world when PC gamers need to move their wrist a little and click on a different app to get into a game?

3. Maybe, I don’t know... get a console and become a peasant? Since that’s how it works there.

4.Never understood this kind of outcry. Such anger for what amounts to a few different mouse clicks.

PC gamers? Maybe we should change that to Steam gamers.

1. Who said this? 

2. Do you even know what the reason for all of this is? 

3. How does it solve anything? 

4. Yes, you clearly missed the whole point. It has been elaborate countless times already what the main issue is. Just go throw some comment like the one of CGI for example. Maybe you understand what this "outcry" is all about. 

Edit: you can also watch this here to know what is going on: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoJx2Q_dR6U

I have read everything.  And I still think it’s blown out of proportion.

Like most other gamers outcry.

But hey, far from me the idea to stop such gamers from being their entitled self.

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DreadPirateRoberts said:

The number of people who want Steam to have a monopoly (or Netflix, to cite another example) , because it is convenient to them don't seem to realize that monopolies never benefit the customer.  And in the case of steam, developers and publishers are customers themselves.  And it sounds like an increasing number of them are tired of getting screwed by Steam.

Are you trying to appeal against a monopoly... by supporting an online shop who essentially bought monopoly over a game for an entire year?

I don't mind Metro being on Epic game store, I mind it being only there and nowhere else for an entire year. If it was up to me the game should be available on every videogame shop, be it Epic, Steam, GOG, Humble store, itch.io... Same goes for your Netflix example btw. I don't want all the movies and series exclusively on Netflix, but also on Netflix, among other similar services like Amazon Prime or Hulu to name a few.



So on one hand we have the usual greedy consumer hating publisher and on the other hand we have a moronic dev who shouldn't be allowed to talk directly to customers. The customer loses, the dev loses, the game loses. So in the end everyone loses except for 2 big publishers. What else is new?



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Due to infection called Fortnite that my kids are suffering from, I have Epic Store...but have no intention of geting Metro if there is always online policy in place.