PwerlvlAmy said:
Peh said:
One of your arguments is that the Retro Studio lost most of it's staff that worked on the previous games and that's why it's bad they got the project.
We are now aware of who is probably still working of the team at RS. And now you changed your argument to "An all star team doesn't warrant a product that one wants". I refer "all star team" to the old staff.
So, here is my question: What do you want?
Both options seem to be out of place for you, be it either the lack of known staff members or that the staff members who are still there. You have to pick one. Because you defend the position that every studio who did or did not not work on MP is not qualified enough to work on PM4. Please make up your mind.
And regarding the hype about Retro Studio doing the job. From all I can see, I am glad they are doing it, since the put a lot of care into their projects. Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze, even if it being a pseudo 2D jump & run game, has shown not only precise gameplay mechanics and well thought out design, but the visuals in that game are pretty outstanding for what could be achieved on that console. They could have gone the minimalistic Mario Bros route and call it a day. But they didn't. So far, they gain my praise until the've shown to the public they are unable to.
And all your argument is build on the ignorance at what RS actually did the past years. Since, you know, claimed that they've done nothing without providing verifiable evidence for your case but the only one that is not sharing any news to the public about what is going on at RS.
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You can keep calling me ignorant or calling my way of thinking ''ignorance'' all you want. I'm the only one on here giving my opinion and how I think without having to try to get personal with people, so I suggest simmering down please. Its easy to have an agreement with people without trying to take it personal. Everything I've stated, I'm standing by until MP4's release. You don't have to like it or agree with it, but just accept that thats my point of view, as I've done with yours and havent went personal on you or told you not to think the way you are thinking. For the most part your rebuttals are good and its good reading what you and others have to say in response,good conversation, but trying to take it personal, pump the breaks on that.
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I'm not making it personal. I'm just attacking your argument, and that's what a debate is all about. Personal attacks would be an ad hominem. I'm not interested in those.
But here is the thing and you don't seem to be aware of that. I respect the opinion of others even if I don't agree with them, but your post which I've quoted first is not an opinion. What you did was stating your opinion as a fact and that's wrong.
"They've literally done nothing but Donkey Kong games and all their ''secret'' projects never have come to fruition. They've literally done nothing. Also count the fact that nearly all the developers that worked on Prime arent' even at Retro anymore. "
You made a claim.
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/claim
And I've been calling you out on it, since a claim requires evidence or an argument that is not falling into the category of a fallacy. But your argument is made from ignorance, since, as I already stated, we don't know what RS was doing the past years. You made a claim by saying "they did literally nothing", and you need to provide evidence for this.
Saying now that your claim is just an opinion gives me the understanding that you really don't understand the meaning of these words.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/opinion
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/fact
Please don't mix those up.
And again, I am not personally attacking you. But to avoid further confusion of what you think you want to say and what you are actually saying can make a huge difference which doesn't end in your favor. Take this as a good advice.