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What's the problem with Game Freak nowadays?

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fatslob-:O said:
They obviously need multiple teams to keep Pokemon as an annualized franchise just like Ubisoft with the AC series and Activision with the COD series but as another pointed out, Giga Wrecker Alt is just a port from PC so I doubt it a whole lot of man power ...

Pokémon has never been like AC or COD though. There are a lot of remakes and third versions in the franchise, which I assume take significantly less time to make (especially the 3rd versions). They have only made 7 main games, in 20 years time.



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Flilix said:
fatslob-:O said:
They obviously need multiple teams to keep Pokemon as an annualized franchise just like Ubisoft with the AC series and Activision with the COD series but as another pointed out, Giga Wrecker Alt is just a port from PC so I doubt it a whole lot of man power ...

Pokémon has never been like AC or COD though. There are a lot of remakes and third versions in the franchise, which I assume take significantly less time to make (especially the 3rd versions). They have only made 7 main games, in 20 years time.

Eh, B2/W2 is its own game I'd say. 8 main games.



mZuzek said:
Flilix said:

Pokémon has never been like AC or COD though. There are a lot of remakes and third versions in the franchise, which I assume take significantly less time to make (especially the 3rd versions). They have only made 7 main games, in 20 years time.

Eh, B2/W2 is its own game I'd say. 8 main games.

That's always made me curious - I feel like I've seen a lot of debate over whether B2/W2 are their own games, or rather more "ambiguity" than debate. 

What did it add and why does that seem to be not always acknowledged? 



AngryLittleAlchemist said:
mZuzek said:

Eh, B2/W2 is its own game I'd say. 8 main games.

That's always made me curious - I feel like I've seen a lot of debate over whether B2/W2 are their own games, or rather more "ambiguity" than debate. 

What did it add and why does that seem to be not always acknowledged? 

It adds loads of extra Pokémon from previous generations into the world, as well as several new legendary encounters. It also adds the PWT, a new post-game contest where you can battle all gym leaders and champions from previous regions, and the Join Avenue, a mall you can expand and get all sorts of cool things from. There were also some minor mechanics that were tweaked, and of course the new Kyurem forms. All of that is normal for a "third version" of a Pokémon game, but B2/W2 also adds several new cities (5 or 6 I think), routes and areas, new gyms, a considerable amount of new music, and it's a proper sequel to the originals with a completely new story set 2 years later.

Why is not acknowledged? Probably because it's not a new generation, I guess. Makes no sense to me.



AngryLittleAlchemist said:
mZuzek said:

Eh, B2/W2 is its own game I'd say. 8 main games.

That's always made me curious - I feel like I've seen a lot of debate over whether B2/W2 are their own games, or rather more "ambiguity" than debate. 

What did it add and why does that seem to be not always acknowledged? 

Black 2/White 2 is a direct sequel to BW, so it has a different story, plus it adds a tournament mode. Other than that, it's pretty much the same.



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Flilix said:

Pokémon has never been like AC or COD though. There are a lot of remakes and third versions in the franchise, which I assume take significantly less time to make (especially the 3rd versions). They have only made 7 main games, in 20 years time.

Doesn't matter, from a development perspective their remakes aren't duplicates of the original game so they're practically creating the game from the ground up again just as they would for the original entries ... 

Whether it is remakes or 3rd versions, these things will now need two year development cycles to meet an annualized release schedule since their dealing with standards similar 7th gen home consoles and it's only going to get slower from here on out ... 



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Cerebralbore101 said:
I haven't played Sun/Moon but X/Y had just as many features as Black/White if not more. They streamlined breeding, and EV training. They added in Mega forms to shake up the meta. They stopped adding 150 poorly thought out Poke'mon and instead focused on giving us about 70 well thought out additions. They made the jump from 2D to 3D.

Now, I agree with OP that the main story mode has gotten more linear. And I agree that it is a problem.


There’s no poorly thought out Pokémon in BW

Trubbish, Garbidor, Gothita, Gothorita, Gothitelle, Lilliepup, Herdier, Stoutland, Ducklett, Swanna, Foongus, Amoongus,  Alomomola, Boufalant, Stunfisk, Pidove, Tranquil, Unfeasant.

Not to mention they went completely overboard with the legendaries. There's like 12 of them in Black/White. 

Don't get me wrong though, Black/White was an awesome game with some very strong designs. It just also happened to have quite a bit of filler pokemon sitting aside the well designed ones. 

I liked X/Y for giving us 71 new Poke'mon and 30 new megas. Do I think there are some bad designs in X/Y? For sure. But there aren't as numerous as previous games in the series. 



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Option 2. It was interesting to read comments on Town after its reveal, lots of inflated expectations that calmed down later. The reality was that it's small in scale and an eShop exclusive. Which shows how short on staff Game Freak is when they can't work on anything bigger than that and Pokemon at the same time.



I didn't pick an option but I think it's mainly that Nintendo are pushing them to put out a new Pokemon game for Switch too quickly after Let's Go and it's likely pushing them to their limits. I remember reading in an interview, I think was at Eurogamer that their entire development team is on one floor of a building. They do use Creatures for massive amount of development and Nintendo.
Maybe they need to expand their team but maybe not. Back in this interview before Ultra Sun and Moon came out they said htey have two main teams. One working on Ultra Sun and Moon and another on a game that they weren't talking bout and obviously was the Let's Go games. So they probably have the two dev teams working on Town and the new Pokemon for Switch. So they should be able to do this but I guess we'll wait and see if delays happen.



I don't understand Game Freak lately. Their Pokemon games on the 3DS were nowhere near visually impressive, and were filled with performance issues regardless of whether or not you used the 3D effect (if it was even in the game). They keep releasing side projects, which is fine and dandy if you have a excess of staff, but they don't. It makes even less sense when their main franchise brings in more than enough profit to pay for an excess of staff that could work on side projects and help polish their Pokemon games.

I'm still looking forward to the Pokemon 2019 game, and I did enjoy Let's Go for what it was, but I'm starting to worry if there is some kind of structural/leadership issue that's holding the developer back.