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Forums - Sales Discussion - More consoles were sold in the UK in 2018 vs 2017. PS4 #1

zorg1000 said:
chakkra said:

A new article just popped up saying that the PS4 was actually flat yoy.

And btw, they also posted the 20 best selling games of 2018.  I was gonna create a thread about it but I have no idea how to work with graphs over here. So if anyone wants to create it, it would be appreciated it.

Do you have a link?

Here

https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2019-01-02-uk-video-games-market-is-now-80-percent-digital



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chakkra said:
zorg1000 said:

Do you have a link?

Here

https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2019-01-02-uk-video-games-market-is-now-80-percent-digital

Thank you!



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Miyamotoo said:
Intrinsic said:

Info at the link Gameindustrybiz#mce_temp_url#

 

  • PS4 #1 best selling console in UK in 2018 and up YOY from 2017
  • NS biggest mover up 20% YOY (though this should be expected being that it tracked fr at least 2 more months in 2018)
  • Physical sales down by ~3% YOY. Digital sales not tracked. 

 

On other hand, Switch had launch in March 2017. and launch always gave huge sales in any case, and January and February of this year shouldnt be strong in any case. So March of last year should easily be stronger than this years January and February.

 

colafitte said:
I have the feeling PS4 is going to be undertracked this year worlwide (have this ever happened to a Playstation before???? ), because if in USA, JP and UK PS4 is similar to last year numbers, how PS4 is going to sell 2-3m less in the rest of the world?

PS4 in US and Japan is down YoY.

On other hand it wasn't severely supply constrained this year. 

 

Anyway this is a big victory for the ps4. I had some arguments over on VizionEck with people who were panicking after BF sales in the UK. Sony despite much worse deals are up YOY in the UK. They were right not to cut the price permanently this year. They would have thrown away profits and created an unnecessary shortage. 



Wasn't it widely predicted that Sony stuffed the channels big time in 2017 to hit the 20m goal. So for all we know they could be up in 2018 in terms of actual sales.



UK 2018 :

1. FIFA 19 : 1.889.401
2. Red Dead Redemption II : 1.757.212
3. Call of Duty Black Ops 4 : 1.172.855
4. Spider-Man : 676.621
5. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe : 458.675
6. Far Cry 5 : 434.133
7. Crash Bandicoot Trilogy : 430.551
8. God Of War : 399.395
9. Forza Horizon 4 : 392.960
10. FIFA 18 : 351.788
11. GTA V : 339.805
12. Spyro Reignited Trilogy : 333.725
13. Battlefield V : 313.100
14. Assassin's Creed Odyssey : 305.937
15. Super Smash Bros Ultimate : 284.155
16. Super Mario Odyssey : 240.710
17. Call of Duty WWII : 230.576
18. Pokémon Let's Go Pikachu : 227.767
19. Shadow of the Tomb Raider : 226.125
20. Fallout 76 : 218.534



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Evilms said:

UK 2018 :

1. FIFA 19 : 1.889.401
2. Red Dead Redemption II : 1.757.212
3. Call of Duty Black Ops 4 : 1.172.855
4. Spider-Man : 676.621
5. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe : 458.675
6. Far Cry 5 : 434.133
7. Crash Bandicoot Trilogy : 430.551
8. God Of War : 399.395
9. Forza Horizon 4 : 392.960
10. FIFA 18 : 351.788
11. GTA V : 339.805
12. Spyro Reignited Trilogy : 333.725
13. Battlefield V : 313.100
14. Assassin's Creed Odyssey : 305.937
15. Super Smash Bros Ultimate : 284.155
16. Super Mario Odyssey : 240.710
17. Call of Duty WWII : 230.576
18. Pokémon Let's Go Pikachu : 227.767
19. Shadow of the Tomb Raider : 226.125
20. Fallout 76 : 218.534

After seeing the acceptance of FH4 on UK I can´t help but wonder if a Tokyo setting would have helped with the japanese gamers perception of the X1.



chakkra said:
zorg1000 said:

Do you have a link?

Here

https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2019-01-02-uk-video-games-market-is-now-80-percent-digital

Great, I just know somebody is going to reference that article the next time a game flops and claim it's sales were "80% digital" without actually reading the article and seeing that that isn't how it works.



Evilms said:

UK 2018 :

1. FIFA 19 : 1.889.401
2. Red Dead Redemption II : 1.757.212
3. Call of Duty Black Ops 4 : 1.172.855
4. Spider-Man : 676.621
5. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe : 458.675
6. Far Cry 5 : 434.133
7. Crash Bandicoot Trilogy : 430.551
8. God Of War : 399.395
9. Forza Horizon 4 : 392.960
10. FIFA 18 : 351.788
11. GTA V : 339.805
12. Spyro Reignited Trilogy : 333.725
13. Battlefield V : 313.100
14. Assassin's Creed Odyssey : 305.937
15. Super Smash Bros Ultimate : 284.155
16. Super Mario Odyssey : 240.710
17. Call of Duty WWII : 230.576
18. Pokémon Let's Go Pikachu : 227.767
19. Shadow of the Tomb Raider : 226.125
20. Fallout 76 : 218.534

Its amazing Forza Horizon 4 sold almost as well as God of War despite being released few months ago and being available for free on Game Pass.

Just shows that Sony fucked it up by closing their arcade racing studios.



Kerotan said:
Wasn't it widely predicted that Sony stuffed the channels big time in 2017 to hit the 20m goal. So for all we know they could be up in 2018 in terms of actual sales.

Not quite.

  1. sony actually shipped fewer units in 2017 compared to 2016 because they had an excess of units from 2016.
  2. stuffing channels doesnt mean anything with regards to selling 20M units in one year. If the demand for your product isn't there it wont sell anyways and you end up with a supply excess.
  3. Unless you are literally doing firesales (looking at you XB1) and main all manner of deals and promotions all year round to ensure you sell all those units which sony didnt do.
  4. What really happened is that sony shipped alot out in 2016 but quickly realized that they had reached the limit of how many consoles they could sell effectively at $399. Hence why the price was dropped in 2016 to spur sales. Where it has remained since probably because they are ok selling at their current pace. Cause we all know permanently dropping t $199 could at least make the baseline go up...... though at this point maybe it will only keep it flat YOY.


Intrinsic said:
Kerotan said:
Wasn't it widely predicted that Sony stuffed the channels big time in 2017 to hit the 20m goal. So for all we know they could be up in 2018 in terms of actual sales.

Not quite.

 

  1. sony actually shipped fewer units in 2017 compared to 2016 because they had an excess of units from 2016.
  2. stuffing channels doesnt mean anything with regards to selling 20M units in one year. If the demand for your product isn't there it wont sell anyways and you end up with a supply excess.
  3. Unless you are literally doing firesales (looking at you XB1) and main all manner of deals and promotions all year round to ensure you sell all those units which sony didnt do.
  4. What really happened is that sony shipped alot out in 2016 but quickly realized that they had reached the limit of how many consoles they could sell effectively at $399. Hence why the price was dropped in 2016 to spur sales. Where it has remained since probably because they are ok selling at their current pace. Cause we all know permanently dropping t $199 could at least make the baseline go up...... though at this point maybe it will only keep it flat YOY.

 

So what did sony ship in 2016 and 2017?