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There's a few ways to remake/remaster a game.
One way is to make the game exactly as it was with modern graphics and sounds (like Crash Bandicoot for the PS4)
Another is to totally remake the game from the ground up (like Resident Evil on the GameCube)
Yet another is to remake the game the way we remember it instead of how it actually was (Punch Out for the Wii)

I'm hoping this game is remade the way we think it was instead of how it actually was. By that, I mean the unparalleled sense of speed, the cartoony animations, the large sprawling tracks with tons of routes, and the great computer AI that always seemed fair and not cheap. They've already got a day one sale from me. I just want it to be every bit as good as I remember, unlike the NSane collection that really showed its age (to me at least).



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Dr.Vita said:
It's funny how all the Nintendo people in this community try to judge CTR even though they didn't play (or barely played) this masterpiece.

Couldn't that just be said about you and most of the Mario Kart games?

I don't think there's actually much of a cross-over for either games, if you played CTR you were probably a kid at the time and it seems to me like having multiple consoles was more rare in the past than it is now. 



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AngryLittleAlchemist said:
Dr.Vita said:
It's funny how all the Nintendo people in this community try to judge CTR even though they didn't play (or barely played) this masterpiece.

Couldn't that just be said about you and most of the Mario Kart games?

I don't think there's actually much of a cross-over for either games, if you played CTR you were probably a kid at the time and it seems to me like having multiple consoles was more rare in the past than it is now. 

Not pretending to be some unique snow flake but I'm 42. I sold my Gameboy in like 1992 and bought two games before I even had an SNES: Street Fighter 2 and Super Mario Kart. I've been a Nintendo fan my whole life but after playing Tekken 2, I bought a PS1. My heart's always been with Nintendo, though.

There's not a PlayStation console I haven't owned, some 2 or 3 times. Same goes for Nintendo, at one point I owned 6 DS consoles. Oddly, my current most played console is the Xbox One with the Switch as a close second.

All of that history just to try to illustrate that I'm about as unbiased as possible. If I do have a bias, it's actually against Sony. I've owned every Mario Kart and played hundreds of hours of the franchise. I get excited with every new Mario Kart release and I've bought each one on day one since MK64 except MK Advance.

I still feel that CTR is amongst the best Kart racers ever made. Right up there with MK Wii, DS, 7, and 8. On any given day, any one of those could be my favorite for one reason or another. It's better than DD,  Diddy  Kong, Advance, 64, Sonic and Sega All Stars, the original, and the other cash ins, easy. But that's just my opinion.



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d21lewis said:
Cobretti2 said:
Well Crash come after Mario Kart and Diddy Kong Racing.

It took the best elements of both at the time and combined them.

Yep.

It's a copy but it's a damn good copy. So many others tried to rip off Mario Kart but came up short on one way or another. CTR took it to another level. 

I may just fire up my Vita today and take it for a spin.

Yep they sure did. 

The other thing people forget about the two is that Nintendo aim Mario Kart at a wider audience, that is why you will get the core gamer  who swear black and blue that Diddy Kong is better than Mario Kart.

On a personal level by myself I do prefer the harder challenge and being rewarded for being better.

However with Mario Kart, I can play it with anyone. I think Mario Kart 8 has come a long way and is probably balanced enough as half the time I need to slowdown to let someone I know (like my wife or friend) win lol.

I know people hate the blue shell, but tbh playing with casuals even if hit they never even a threat of taking the lead away. Also there a ways to now avoid the blue shell, so the skilled drivers will perfect their methods of doing so. Effectively in a sense a skilled driver is rewarded as they do not get hit by it. 

Would I want to see a story mode in Mario Kart? I don't know. It was cool in Diddy Kong and Crash. Maybe if it didn't force people to play it and they could do the arcade mode that we all used to of just doing the cups.  A cannonball run style of a story would be funny where they race through the mushroom kingdom (one long race with stops and traps along the way)



 

 

contestgamer said:
Cloudman said:
If we're talking MK64, an argument for which is better can be made, but Mario Kart in general? I'm not so sure about that. The series has changed since then. Heck Double Dash and later games are almost different beasts altogether. I don't mean to say the game feels dated, but this kinda feels like if MK64 was being compared to MK8.

Wow. Are you implying MK8 is better than MK64?

Haha yeah, a bit bold of me to say, I know ;)



 

              

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Cloudman said:
contestgamer said:

Wow. Are you implying MK8 is better than MK64?

Haha yeah, a bit bold of me to say, I know ;)

MK64 and Super Mario Kart are much better games. SMK created the genre and was one of the best games of the generation. MK64 elevated it to another level. MK8 is really incrementalism. 



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Sahib said:
Indeed, Naughty Dog is easily the most diverse developer out their. They’ve created critically acclaimed blockbusters in so many different genres it boggles the mind that they’re all from one developer.

Not even close:

-PS1: Crash Bandicoot and Crash Bandicoot Racing

-PS2: Jak and Daxter, Jak X: Combat Racing

-PS3: Uncharted and Last of Us

-PS4: Uncharted and Last of US

 

Now try to compare that with Rare just on N64 platform:

-Killer Instinct Gold

-Blast Corps

-GoldenEye 007

-Banjo-Kazooie

-Diddy Kong Racing

-Jet Force Gemini

-Donkey Kong 64

-Conker's Bad Fur Day

-Perfect Dark

-Mickey's Speedway

Rare just on N64 have more diverse games than Naughty Dog last 4 generations combined.

 

But what I find very impressive about Naughty Dog is they went from Crash Bandicoot to Last of US.

You clearly missed the “critically acclaimed blockbusters” part, I’m sure there’s devs out there who’ve tried their hands at many different genres, especially back in the day when it took only a couple months to make a game. Point is none of them put out 90+ rated titles in so many different genres and set sales records on top of it.



Crash Racing is good, but MK is an absolute juggernaut next to it. Not really a fair comparison. Much like party fighters like Smash Bros have no real competition in that genre, Mario Kart is in that same situation with Kart racers.



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This is like comparing PlayStation all star fighters to SSB. They are leagues apart



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Ashadelo said:
This is like comparing PlayStation all star fighters to SSB. They are leagues apart

Nah.