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Shiken said:

Also just because you might feel one way, does not mean 90% of gamers do as well.  If you wish to make such bold claims, please provide data to back your numbers.

First, I didn't say that I personally like those games, I only noticed that many gamers do like a lot of games that didn't and will not release on the switch for obvious reasons.

Second, you just need to look at combined ps4, xbox one and gaming pc hardware sales. These three platforms share most big third party games and compared them, Switch sales are quite low (relatively speaking). This is why I said that the Switch probably cannot be the only gaming device for most players. Aside for the diehard nintendo fans, that cannot be the case.

As for bethesda...I was thinking more of fallout 4 and the next tes, since those are bethesda's heavy hitters and are not severl years old.



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OP seems like he wants us to convince him more than change his mind...



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The Wii U was a viable primary console. Being a "viable" primary console speaks nothing of quality or taste. It just speaks of opinion and preferences.



Every Nintendo or even from any of the 3 is perfectly viable sole option if you prefer what is available there. Plenty of options to keep you gaming.

And I would have to say that the thread premise was made in a way that would be just circle jerk since it only needs to agreeing with OP when you remove any possibility of personal taste.

Most of the games are third parties, most of the sales are as well, and both are much smaller in Switch or any console of Nintendo since N64. So all Nintendo consoles could be primary or sole source of gaming as long as you just care about their games, and couldn't be even a choice if you don't care about Nintendo games. And I'm pretty sure OP would be pissed on a thread about Nintendo being unnecessary to the industry using basically the same arguments he is using with people being perfectly fine playing games without Nintendo being around (or any of the big 3 or even some publishers).

Also OP says he wants to stay away from list war, but that is what he is using to answer. Even worse is that he basically list every thing possible to reply to someone that listed about 5% of what he could.

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Shiken said:

Also just because you might feel one way, does not mean 90% of gamers do as well.  If you wish to make such bold claims, please provide data to back your numbers.

First, I didn't say that I personally like those games, I only noticed that many gamers do like a lot of games that didn't and will not release on the switch for obvious reasons.

Second, you just need to look at combined ps4, xbox one and gaming pc hardware sales. These three platforms share most big third party games and compared them, Switch sales are quite low (relatively speaking). This is why I said that the Switch probably cannot be the only gaming device for most players. Aside for the diehard nintendo fans, that cannot be the case.

As for bethesda...I was thinking more of fallout 4 and the next tes, since those are bethesda's heavy hitters and are not severl years old.

I have my suspicions that the next ES game might see a heavily scaled down version on Switch.  I still doubt it, but their refusal to make a new engine for the game has me wondering...but that is another discussion entirely.

 

By your logic, the PS4 and X1 were viable to be an only console because 90% of their library was still on the PS360 as cross gen as well.  Not to mention the fact that both the PS4 or X1 saw less exclusives in 2 full years (quality and quantity)  than the Switch has put out in less than 2.

 

Just sayin'



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FentonCrackshell said:

OP seems like he wants us to convince him more than change his mind...

Seems like you are just trying to confuse me.



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Mnementh said:
LudicrousSpeed said:

If you’re disregarding personal taste or preferences then even the 3DO was viable as a primary console.

Isn't this the other way around? That looking at personal tastes even the 3DO is viable as a primary for some? Maybe my usage of english is wrong here, I'm not a native speaker, so correct me if I misunderstand.

That was my point, that if you remove all subjective factors, as the OP is requesting, then even a massively high priced, short lived console with a very mediocre game library like the 3DO could be a viable or even only gaming device. So of course a console like the Switch would also fall into that category, it's superior to the 3DO in every aspect. The worst consoles in existence are all perfectly viable as primary or only devices. The only requirements are one, that it works; and two, that it has some games to play. Done.

It's essentially the "PS4 has no gamez!" argument and defense. Where people made that claim based entirely on subjective reasons, and people tried to defend the PS4 using literal reasoning. "PS4 has no games? Sure it does, look at this: *list of games*". I mean, sure, technically, that person is right, but what the two sides are saying are not the same thing.

Or am I mistaken? OP says the offenders know who they are. Is there a large group of people on teh Chartz claiming that the Switch objectively and factually cannot be viable as someone's primary or, gasp, only gaming device? Maybe I just am out of the loop.



AngryLittleAlchemist said:
The Wii U was a viable primary console. Being a "viable" primary console speaks nothing of quality or taste. It just speaks of opinion and preferences.

Bingo. 



PortisheadBiscuit said:
The PS4 + Switch combo is a match made in heaven

You sir, are a wise man indeed!

LudicrousSpeed said:
Mnementh said:

Isn't this the other way around? That looking at personal tastes even the 3DO is viable as a primary for some? Maybe my usage of english is wrong here, I'm not a native speaker, so correct me if I misunderstand.

That was my point, that if you remove all subjective factors, as the OP is requesting, then even a massively high priced, short lived console with a very mediocre game library like the 3DO could be a viable or even only gaming device. So of course a console like the Switch would also fall into that category, it's superior to the 3DO in every aspect. The worst consoles in existence are all perfectly viable as primary or only devices. The only requirements are one, that it works; and two, that it has some games to play. Done.

It's essentially the "PS4 has no gamez!" argument and defense. Where people made that claim based entirely on subjective reasons, and people tried to defend the PS4 using literal reasoning. "PS4 has no games? Sure it does, look at this: *list of games*". I mean, sure, technically, that person is right, but what the two sides are saying are not the same thing.

Or am I mistaken? OP says the offenders know who they are. Is there a large group of people on teh Chartz claiming that the Switch objectively and factually cannot be viable as someone's primary or, gasp, only gaming device? Maybe I just am out of the loop.

Well those that make those claims know they are incorrect.  That is why they are either avoiding the topic entirely or somehow try to put an arbitrary number from their butt to try and say that primary Switch owners are a "minority", all while forgetting why the whole "PS4 has no gamez" narrative existed to begin with (which is bullshit there as well, and yes I defended PS4 during those times).


Generally speaking of course.  I am not trying to single anyone out, just opening the floor for a valid discussion.



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