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Errorist76 said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:
I totally agree with the OP. This generation's* batch of consoles is a huge disappointment. It's pretty clear actually. Just look at the XB1, Wii U, 3DS and Vita. Each one of the consoles is a disappointment compared to it's predecessor (in two cases they were massively epic failures). Each one also has a lot less new IP compared to its predecessor and that includes both first and third party games.

That just leaves the PS4. It's less of a disappointment than the other consoles, but it's a disappointment nonetheless. The PS4 is succeeding mostly because the 4 other consoles I already mentioned were such disasters. Even though the PS3 was such a huge financial failure, it still had a better library than the PS4 does. Really I'll take the first 5 years of the PS3 over the current PS4 stuff any day. Remember when Assassin's Creed was a hot new IP? Now it's got microtransactions. It's just terrible. The PS4 has the honor of being the least disappointing console in a full crowd of disappointment.

*by this generation, I mean consoles released (2011-2013).

PSVR alone elevates the PS4 over PS3. 

Well that may explain the lack of new IP.  Innovation is going into VR instead of the standard games.  Of course, just like a lot of people don't count all those new games on the Wii, I don't really count all those new games on VR.  I have no interest in VR.



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Ka-pi96 said:
lightningfunk said:

PC's doesn't really have a gen,consoles do.

PC platform is a never ending generation as it doesn't have iterations except a new graphic card


Besides, PCs do have gens in new versions of windows. I know that firsthand not being able to play any of the new MS games because I refuse to downgrade to Windows 10

You're doing it wrong. Every other windows is good.

Windows 98 Good, Windows 2000 crap, Windows XP Good, Windows Vista crap, Windows 7 Good, Windows 8 crap, Windows 10 Good!

I was hesitant, but after using 10 I could never go back to 7.



Barkley said:
Ka-pi96 said:


Besides, PCs do have gens in new versions of windows. I know that firsthand not being able to play any of the new MS games because I refuse to downgrade to Windows 10

You're doing it wrong. Every other windows is good.

Windows 98 Good, Windows 2000 crap, Windows XP Good, Windows Vista crap, Windows 7 Good, Windows 8 crap, Windows 10 Good!

I was hesitant, but after using 10 I could never go back to 7.

But since they skipped over Windows 9 wouldn't that mean 10 is back to the bad side?



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pikashoe said:
Barkley said:

"Some of those aren't new ip." *looks at OP*

"Half that list were considered to be huge dissapointments" HAZE

But you really think many of these games are "massive disappointments"? Of the 60 listed I think maybe 5 could match that criteria imo.

Evolve
The Order 1886
Ryse
No Man Sky
Super Lucky's Tale

And while No Man Sky was disappointing at launch, it isn't anymore.

I'm just talking a out your list. His one has weird mistakes and is a LOT less comprehensive than yours.

Mario and rabbids, 2 dragon quests, final fantasy,  dirt, middle earth, mad max. Which brings your list of new ips to 35.

Massive disappointments might have been an exaggeration, but a large portion of your list was considered disappointing to a degree.

Destiny

The crew

Order 1886

Ryse 

Record

Knack 

Sea of thieves

Driveclub

Detroit

Super luckys tale

Quantum break

No man's sky

Watch dogs

Steep

Dying light

The evil within

For honour 

Evolve

Division

Ark

Arms

All of these have a meta of 80 or less. Which generally considered a little disappointing at least. A lot scored in the low 70s or worse. 

I cut out 28, which brings your list of currently released new ips, to around 14.

That's a strange definition of massive disappointments. I think maybe five of those fit a realistic definition.



VAMatt said:
pikashoe said:

I'm just talking a out your list. His one has weird mistakes and is a LOT less comprehensive than yours.

Mario and rabbids, 2 dragon quests, final fantasy,  dirt, middle earth, mad max. Which brings your list of new ips to 35.

Massive disappointments might have been an exaggeration, but a large portion of your list was considered disappointing to a degree.

Destiny

The crew

Order 1886

Ryse 

Record

Knack 

Sea of thieves

Driveclub

Detroit

Super luckys tale

Quantum break

No man's sky

Watch dogs

Steep

Dying light

The evil within

For honour 

Evolve

Division

Ark

Arms

All of these have a meta of 80 or less. Which generally considered a little disappointing at least. A lot scored in the low 70s or worse. 

I cut out 28, which brings your list of currently released new ips, to around 14.

That's a strange definition of massive disappointments. I think maybe five of those fit a realistic definition.

Read my post properly. I said that all of these were to an extent considered at least a little disappointing. I even admitted that massive disappointment was a bit of an exaggeration. Read before replying.



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Darwinianevolution said:
Considering the amount of cash the big publishers are winning with their old franchises and their new monetization methodes, they have no drive to invest in new things. Which is sad, we're going to end up burning every single IP to the ground, the 8th gen best sellers are too similar to the 7th gen best sellers, Nintendo notwithstanding.

Well even Nintendo are heavily push the same ips every gen. Mario Kart, Smash, splatoon, Mario 3d, Mario 2d, animal crossing, pokemon and there are loads more. Not saying its a bad thing.

 

Despite lesser new ips the ps4 is my favourite console ever. 



pikashoe said:
Intrinsic said:

 

Stop moving the posts. You said that there haven't been a lot of new Is released this gen and have been shown otherwise. If you want to start talking about the quality of said releases thats a different matter.

And those lists aren,t even covering all of them. 

When did I say there weren't new ips? My first reply in this thread was saying how I found most new ips  this gen disappointing. 

Then you should probably change the name of your thread.

Cause if what you are saying here is the basis of your argument then no one will argue with you. Tastes being subjective and all that.



Intrinsic said:
pikashoe said:

When did I say there weren't new ips? My first reply in this thread was saying how I found most new ips  this gen disappointing. 

Then you should probably change the name of your thread.

Cause if what you are saying here is the basis of your argument then no one will argue with you. Tastes being subjective and all that.

I didn't make this thread.



lightningfunk said:

PC's doesn't really have a gen,consoles do.

PC platform is a never ending generation as it doesn't have iterations except a new graphic card

PC does have generations. Our generations are just different to the console generations.
Usually our generations are broken up by rendering techniques.

Ka-pi96 said:

Are you talking to yourself? You're the one that included a PC exclusive while I only included games on current gen consoles...

Besides, PCs do have gens in new versions of windows. I know that firsthand not being able to play any of the new MS games because I refuse to downgrade to Windows 10

Ironically, Windows tends to heavily influence the above*

I.E. The 6th gen equivalent on PC was pushing TnL as the main graphics driver... Whilst 7th gen was all about the pixel shaders and 8th gen is all about deferred rendering and global illumination.

Barkley said:

You're doing it wrong. Every other windows is good.

Windows 98 Good, Windows 2000 crap, Windows XP Good, Windows Vista crap, Windows 7 Good, Windows 8 crap, Windows 10 Good!

I was hesitant, but after using 10 I could never go back to 7.

Well. no.
Windows 2000 was actually pretty good, it just used the NT kernel... Just like Windows XP. - In short though... It was not suited to running games as most games at the time were built for the Win9X kernel or DOS, Windows XP also suffered from that exact same issue early on in it's life cycle.
But after a few years that was a non issue.

So... If we get down to it...
Windows 95 (1995) = Good.
Windows NT 4.0 (1996) = Good.
Windows 98 (1998) = Good.
Windows ME (2000) = Shit.
Windows 2000/NT 5.0 (2000) = Good.
Windows XP (2001) = Good.
Windows Vista (2006) = Shit.
Windows 7 (2009) = Good.
Windows 8 (2012) = Shit. (Unless you were using a tablet.)
Windows 10 (2015) = Good.

But I agree though, Windows 10 is actually fairly decent, I have tweaked mine heavily though so it runs more like Windows 7 and removes allot of the useless rubbish.



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Ka-pi96 said:
Barkley said:

You're doing it wrong. Every other windows is good.

Windows 98 Good, Windows 2000 crap, Windows XP Good, Windows Vista crap, Windows 7 Good, Windows 8 crap, Windows 10 Good!

I was hesitant, but after using 10 I could never go back to 7.

But since they skipped over Windows 9 wouldn't that mean 10 is back to the bad side?

Nah , they were making a correction for no windows 99.