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shikamaru317 said:
COKTOE said:

Now THIS ONE really pisses me off. I was day dreaming about Hitman 2 the last couple of days. Really enjoying it, but didn't have the chance to play it. Now I kinda want to eject the disk and soak it in bleach. The very idea.....I nominated IO for the developer tournament! I'm just going to assume this is happening, and that IO, who I have likely referenced as my favorite developer of all time more than any other ( it fluctuates a bit ), is now lost to me forever. Great way to start the day. #eatshit #hashtag #poundsign

There's this thing called an Xbox, it only costs about $200 if you wait 3 or 4 years into a generation to buy it. There's also this thing called a PC, you might already have one in your house. xD

If this buyout happens, and IO's next project is a Hitman game, it will almost certainly be on the next gen consoles.  Just for fun though, where I come from, Canada, we reward courage. Also the XBO S is $300. So hypothetically, if the MS exclusive Hitman came out next month, it would cost me over $400 ( console and game ) with tax for the cheapest option available. And running it on the S, it would be a substantial step down from the Pro. The original XBO as well as the S, weren't attractive hardware to me years ago, let alone now or in the future. Buying an X and the game would run me about $775. Score! Ha. :)  My faith in PS has been shaken, so maybe, maaaayyybeee, by that time I will have at least partially migrated over to PC gaming. I need to diversify somewhat. I've put so much into PS, that even if things go south for the brand, at least as far as my own interests are concerned, jumping ship will be a huge hassle. It's not at that point yet, but PC has become an increasingly attractive option.

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COKTOE said:

Now THIS ONE really pisses me off. I was day dreaming about Hitman 2 the last couple of days. Really enjoying it, but didn't have the chance to play it. Now I kinda want to eject the disk and soak it in bleach. The very idea.....I nominated IO for the developer tournament! I'm just going to assume this is happening, and that IO, who I have likely referenced as my favorite developer of all time more than any other ( it fluctuates a bit ), is now lost to me forever. Great way to start the day. #eatshit #hashtag #poundsign

There's a chart out there that shows Hitman 2 having a higher player count day 1 than 2016, and also a much more consistent players per day than 2016. It's based on Steam's player count stats which is easily accessible too, so it's probably not a fabrication. Considering most of the profits of 2016 went to Square Enix, unlike 2018, I think that they'll be fine. After all losing Io Interactive and Hitman contributed to a $48 million loss, so the brand made profit already under Square

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COKTOE said:
shikamaru317 said:

There's this thing called an Xbox, it only costs about $200 if you wait 3 or 4 years into a generation to buy it. There's also this thing called a PC, you might already have one in your house. xD

If this buyout happens, and IO's next project is a Hitman game, it will almost certainly be on the next gen consoles.  Just for fun though, where I come from, Canada, we reward courage. Also the XBO S is $300. So hypothetically, if the MS exclusive Hitman came out next month, it would cost me over $400 ( console and game ) with tax for the cheapest option available. And running it on the S, it would be a substantial step down from the Pro. The original XBO as well as the S, weren't attractive hardware to me years ago, let alone now or in the future. Buying an X and the game would run me about $775. Score! Ha. :)  My faith in PS has been shaken, so maybe, maaaayyybeee, by that time I will have at least partially migrated over to PC gaming. I need to diversify somewhat. I've put so much into PS, that even if things go south for the brand, at least as far as my own interests are concerned, jumping ship will be a huge hassle. It's not at that point yet, but PC has become an increasingly attractive option.

So there is absolutely nothing else that interest you on Xbox ecosystem? Even now with the huge investment in 1st party studios, and likely more to come? 



flashfire926 said:
Barkley said:

"IO Interactive has revealed it has officially gone independent and, better still, will "keep all of the rights to the Hitman IP.""

Hitman 2 already has no involvement with Square. It's published by Warner Bros.

Square owns the IP itself, IO just have the liscense to do whatever they want with it. And Im like 90% sure their would be some clause about not keeping the IP if they get acquired.

I'm pretty sure Io Interactive own the IP, otherwise every article I've read about it is just purposely vague.

https://www.polygon.com/2017/6/16/15816232/io-interactive-hitman



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AngryLittleAlchemist said:
flashfire926 said:

Square owns the IP itself, IO just have the liscense to do whatever they want with it. And Im like 90% sure their would be some clause about not keeping the IP if they get acquired.

I'm pretty sure Io Interactive own the IP, otherwise every article I've read about it is just purposely vague.

https://www.polygon.com/2017/6/16/15816232/io-interactive-hitman

https://trademarks.justia.com/784/28/hitman-78428222.html

I don't think the articles are purposely vague, they are vague because Square in general has been vague about this whole deal.



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Barozi said:
Bristow9091 said:
I wish the big three would just open new studios instead of buying developers and dividing the fanbase... the only time I think it works out is if it's a second party developer that has mainly made exclusives, such as if Sony were to buy Insomniac.

You can't just open a new studio, aqcuire all the devs that currently don't have a job (likely the bottom of the barrel) and expect that they'll make a decent game. You need experienced personnel for that.
You will always "steal" employees from other studios that way to fill your dev team. So there's no difference between buying a whole studio or acquiring a couple of employees from a dozen of other studios each. Obviously it makes more sense to buy an already winning team.

It's the same reason why we shouldn't care that once famous developer studios close down. It just doesn't matter as these employees will get picked up by other studios and improve their games.

But you're forgetting developers that own their IPs, such as how IO Interactive own the Hitman IP, not their publisher, which means if Microsoft buys them, Playstation owners will need an XBox or PC to play future Hitman games, hence dividing the fanbase lol :P 



konnichiwa said:
Bristow9091 said:
I wish the big three would just open new studios instead of buying developers and dividing the fanbse... the only time I think it works out is if it's a second party developer that has mainly made exclusives, such as if Sony were to buy Insomniac.

Well undead labs/Playground were second party =p.

Yeah exactly, purchases like this are fine, since these are two developers that have worked exclusively for Microsoft, so Sony fans aren't missing out or "losing" games by them being bought. If that makes sense? :P 



Bristow9091 said:

I wish the big three would just open new studios instead of buying developers and dividing the fanbase... the only time I think it works out is if it's a second party developer that has mainly made exclusives, such as if Sony were to buy Insomniac.

Most of Microsoft's purchases have made perfect sense even in this regard though. Undead Labs and Playground Games were both second party, Compulsion games whilst having both their games on PS4 was heavily marketed by Microsoft, inXile and Obsidian have been PC focused for a while now (with the South Park games being the only mainstream console-oriented games Obsidian have worked on since F:NV). There was a thread a while back talking about how Playstation's acquisitions during the PS1/2 era are not comparable to Microsoft's acquisitions now because the devs they scooped up were "known" for and had mostly made Playstation 1/2 games. When you account for the fact that multiplatform game releases is the norm now, that correlation is mostly true for Microsoft as well (because comparing it to the PS1 era is awful, since you had to specialize development towards one platform most of the time). They've been picking up studios known for Xbox and PC content. 



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flashfire926 said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

I'm pretty sure Io Interactive own the IP, otherwise every article I've read about it is just purposely vague.

https://www.polygon.com/2017/6/16/15816232/io-interactive-hitman

https://trademarks.justia.com/784/28/hitman-78428222.html

I don't think the articles are purposely vague, they are vague because Square in general has been vague about this whole deal.

I'm not really sure why Square Enix wouldn't allow them to use the IP now, if they let them use the IP without Square getting any of the profits in the first place. That's already exceedingly generous, and I don't see why Hitman 3 being a Xbox/PC exclusive would suddenly ruffle Square's feathers. Most people don't even think they own Hitman anymore, no egg would be on their face. Besides, this is the same company that allowed their biggest Western franchise to be a console exclusive for a year. 



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AngryLittleAlchemist said:
COKTOE said:

Now THIS ONE really pisses me off. I was day dreaming about Hitman 2 the last couple of days. Really enjoying it, but didn't have the chance to play it. Now I kinda want to eject the disk and soak it in bleach. The very idea.....I nominated IO for the developer tournament! I'm just going to assume this is happening, and that IO, who I have likely referenced as my favorite developer of all time more than any other ( it fluctuates a bit ), is now lost to me forever. Great way to start the day. #eatshit #hashtag #poundsign

There's a chart out there that shows Hitman 2 having a higher player count day 1 than 2016, and also a much more consistent players per day than 2016. It's based on Steam's player count stats which is easily accessible too, so it's probably not a fabrication. Considering most of the profits of 2016 went to Square Enix, unlike 2018, I think that they'll be fine. After all losing Io Interactive and Hitman contributed to a $48 million loss, so the brand made profit already under Square

Well, that's good to hear. twintail said it's "performing badly in sales". I hope it's doing well. It's a very a solid game that deserves some love.

smroadkill15 said:
COKTOE said:

If this buyout happens, and IO's next project is a Hitman game, it will almost certainly be on the next gen consoles.  Just for fun though, where I come from, Canada, we reward courage. Also the XBO S is $300. So hypothetically, if the MS exclusive Hitman came out next month, it would cost me over $400 ( console and game ) with tax for the cheapest option available. And running it on the S, it would be a substantial step down from the Pro. The original XBO as well as the S, weren't attractive hardware to me years ago, let alone now or in the future. Buying an X and the game would run me about $775. Score! Ha. :)  My faith in PS has been shaken, so maybe, maaaayyybeee, by that time I will have at least partially migrated over to PC gaming. I need to diversify somewhat. I've put so much into PS, that even if things go south for the brand, at least as far as my own interests are concerned, jumping ship will be a huge hassle. It's not at that point yet, but PC has become an increasingly attractive option.

So there is absolutely nothing else that interest you on Xbox ecosystem? Even now with the huge investment in 1st party studios, and likely more to come? 

Ha.That's difficult to answer without a multi-paragraph long response. I'll try to whittle it down and get back to you. :)



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