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Forums - Microsoft Discussion - Inside Xbox @ X018 thread. November 10th, 1pm PT, 4pm ET, 9pm GMT

twintail said:
Honestly the announcements themselves were fine. The constant barrage of gamepass advertising, the overly scripted aspect to events, the unnecessary amount of talking just undermined the entire event.
MS X Obsidian is now confirmed which bodes well for MS next gen. Perhaps. Otherwise they could have just put the announcements into a 30 minutes vid or just blog post announcements, cause that's the kind of gravitas they only had.

Yeah, way too much fluff, they could've easily cut down on that. Nintendo direct format would've done wonders here. Would've condensed all this into like 45 minutes.



Bet with Intrinsic:

The Switch will outsell 3DS (based on VGchartz numbers), according to me, while Intrinsic thinks the opposite will hold true. One month avatar control for the loser's avatar.

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Snoopy said:
Errorist76 said:

 

No one denies a great exclusive can't sell a console, it just doesn't hold a huge impact that people here think. Multiplatform games is what most ps4 owners play. The beginning of this generation (first three years) Sony didn't have a huge console seller until Uncharted 4 and ps4 was selling well before it was released. Microsoft is buying these studios mostly for xbox game pass, not really for their console. They realize in order to have a netflix model, they have to do three things. 

1. Get xbox game pass everywhere which is what they're going to use Xbox cloud service for.

2. Have constant games coming in (thus the new studios and their deals with indies).

3. Cheap monthly price.

These games being native xbox console exclusive is just a bonus for them, but they are trying to dominate the subscription service because it is worth a lot more.

@Snoopy you do realize that your whole argument was based on the fact that you think Xb is going to do great next generation because they acquired these new studio to make exclusives. if that's not the case and u believe Exclusive don't matter much they why do u think MS will do great in next gen.. what will be the difference next gen compared to this gen?? I M confused 



I thought the show was good and fun wtf gamers always expecting a ton and overreacting having no new games doesn't make a show bad if that wasn't its purpose



Baddman said:
I thought the show was good and fun wtf gamers always expecting a ton and overreacting having no new games doesn't make a show bad if that wasn't its purpose

So what was its purpose? Gamepass advertisement?

Besides that we didn't get much new information.



taus90 said:
Snoopy said:

No one denies a great exclusive can't sell a console, it just doesn't hold a huge impact that people here think. Multiplatform games is what most ps4 owners play. The beginning of this generation (first three years) Sony didn't have a huge console seller until Uncharted 4 and ps4 was selling well before it was released. Microsoft is buying these studios mostly for xbox game pass, not really for their console. They realize in order to have a netflix model, they have to do three things. 

1. Get xbox game pass everywhere which is what they're going to use Xbox cloud service for.

2. Have constant games coming in (thus the new studios and their deals with indies).

3. Cheap monthly price.

These games being native xbox console exclusive is just a bonus for them, but they are trying to dominate the subscription service because it is worth a lot more.

@Snoopy you do realize that your whole argument was based on the fact that you think Xb is going to do great next generation because they acquired these new studio to make exclusives. if that's not the case and u believe Exclusive don't matter much they why do u think MS will do great in next gen.. what will be the difference next gen compared to this gen?? I M confused 

Xbox is more than just consoles. Xbox has become a service that's why soon you will play xbox games everywhere, even on your phones. In fact, if the xbox streaming service is great, I might not even buy a console next generation. The new studios will help just a little for console sells because I don't expect these studios to produce games that sell on the level of Halo, Gears and Minecraft. Multiplatform games are still the games people play the most. These studio accusations are for xbox game pass because they have to have constant new games for it. Xbox consoles will do better next generation automatically if they don't make the console more expensive than the competitor and they can dominate North America and U.K. again if they play their cards right.

Xbox One X will also still be a viable console because I don't expect PS5 and Xbox scarlet to be drastically better. Which might be a great option for those on a budget when next gen starts.



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Snoopy said:

 

 

Xbox One X will also still be a viable console because I don't expect PS5 and Xbox scarlet to be drastically better. Which might be a great option for those on a budget when next gen starts.

You’re going to have a rough awakening then. The new CPUs alone will make X1X look incredibly outdated in less than one year already.



Snoopy said:
taus90 said:

@Snoopy you do realize that your whole argument was based on the fact that you think Xb is going to do great next generation because they acquired these new studio to make exclusives. if that's not the case and u believe Exclusive don't matter much they why do u think MS will do great in next gen.. what will be the difference next gen compared to this gen?? I M confused 

Xbox is more than just consoles. Xbox has become a service that's why soon you will play xbox games everywhere, even on your phones. In fact, if the xbox streaming service is great, I might not even buy a console next generation. The new studios will help just a little for console sells because I don't expect these studios to produce games that sell on the level of Halo, Gears and Minecraft. Multiplatform games are still the games people play the most. These studio accusations are for xbox game pass because they have to have constant new games for it. Xbox consoles will do better next generation automatically if they don't make the console more expensive than the competitor and they can dominate North America and U.K. again if they play their cards right.

Xbox One X will also still be a viable console because I don't expect PS5 and Xbox scarlet to be drastically better. Which might be a great option for those on a budget when next gen starts.

market outside US is pretty huge.. there are still many places where Streaming services have yet to reach due unreliable internet infrastructure also spending habits are different. If MS could ditch consoles completely and  jump on to Mobile Devices and PC with game pass and make Xbox some sort of OS where users can customize their own off the shelf hardware PC Parts, I can see it working.. but the reality is streaming for majority of the world is not there yet, sure the tech has improved but so did graphics and i doubt with next gen graphics and that 4K tv are getting so abundant that we will see Streaming take off in next gen. 

If MS does focus on next xbox streaming tech rather than local rendering, they will again find themselves in the same situation as they were during start of this generation.. with cloud and Kinect nonsense.. same goes for PS Now and sony. So for developing countries streaming is not an option 

P.S. Hence the reason MS got so much good PR for BC coz people still prefer to play game locally VS PSnow 



I find it ironic most of the negative thoughts in here are from people who are big sony defenders



Absolute love that Microsoft is gearing up it's list of developers... Hopefully they don't close them like Lionhead, Digital Anvil, Ensemble studios... etc' and give them the support they need.
Hopefully it means that the constant claim that Xbox has no exclusives shouldn't be a relevant argument point for next gen.

 

Errorist76 said:

You’re going to have a rough awakening then. The new CPUs alone will make X1X look incredibly outdated in less than one year already.

Quoted for the truth.

I don't think people realize how mid-range the Xbox One X is... And how easy it would be to surpass it on a technical level even with hardware upon the consoles launch.
...Add an extra couple years of hardware evolution to the equation.




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Baddman said:
I find it ironic most of the negative thoughts in here are from people who are big sony defenders

Why is that ironic if Sony fans are more critical to an Xbox event than Xnox fans? You don't seem to understand irony.

It WOULD be ironic if most of the negative thoughts in here were from Xbox fans/defenders.