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Medisti said:
This is pretty sad. Better get petitions for Sony and Xbox as well, because they also delete your cloud saves as space is needed when your sub lapses, and yet cost three times as much.

XBox does not require XBL to use cloud saves, so no they do not.

 

PS4 has a 6 month grace period before they delete it.  Does not make it right, but Nintendo wants to do it as soon as it lapses.



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NightDragon83 said:
Well Ninty knows games like MK, Splatoon and Smash are useless w/out online, so they know the millions of people who play them will be forced to pay for online.

I still think they should have kept the online portion of the service free and provided a more robust subscription service for a monthly / annual fee that includes all the other stuff plus a full Netflix-style "Virtual Console" catalog of classic games to chose from, not just a handful of NES games with a drip drop stream of releases afterwards. I know it's only $20/yr, but the fact that Nintendo is now charging for the same bare-bones online service that they've been providing free for years now just makes it seem that much more of a cheap cash grab.

@bold: Maybe Splatoon, but I think labeling Mario Kart and Smash useless without line is a bit much. Those are two of the best local multiplayer series of all time.

I do like your idea for a Netflix-style Virtual Console, although I'd like it modeled after GamePass, where you can buy individual titles at a discount if you like them enough to own.



Zach808 said:
Have any change.org petitions ever actually worked? Do these corporations even know they exist?

I think that petitions from change.org, as well a facebook petitions played a role in getting Yakuza 5 released in the west.



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Medisti said:
This is pretty sad. Better get petitions for Sony and Xbox as well, because they also delete your cloud saves as space is needed when your sub lapses, and yet cost three times as much.

They cost 3 times as much, but are more than 3 times better. I did the science work using a series of models and equations, and it's true.



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Vodacixi said:
Cobretti2 said:
I don't play online these days. Reading your thing you saying I can't backup save files locally? I assumed they also stored on the cart lol?

No, you can't backup locally. All save files are stored on the system itself and it's not possible to copy data to a micro sd card

Wow serious? I haven't even tried yet as I haven't run out of space. I assumed it would like the Wii U



 

 

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Cobretti2 said:
Vodacixi said:

No, you can't backup locally. All save files are stored on the system itself and it's not possible to copy data to a micro sd card

Wow serious? I haven't even tried yet as I haven't run out of space. I assumed it would like the Wii U

Yes, he's serious. If you value the ability to backup save data, on the Switch, it's paywall or burst. And from what I can remember, there will be no option to do the server backup manually. It does it when it feels like it. And not all games support server saves. The whole save backup situation on the Swich is pretty bad. At least it actually exists now though. It's a good first step.



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I'll sign it when MS and Sony cancel theirs.



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AngryLittleAlchemist said:

What do you mean intentionally ignorant? It literally does not matter in the slightest if you were comparing it to the Wii or the Wii U (I didn't say you compared it the U), because the Wii U did exist and it did have pretty decent online. It doesn't make me ignorant to compare it the U, on the contrary, it makes you ignorant to create a fallacy like "but but but the Wii!" as if there wasn't already a system with free online that was better (well ... besides you know ... a PC).  

I have played Mario Kart 8 Deluxe online. It is not much better at all. And Splatoon 2's online even has a lot of the same problems as 1 (Lobby constantly getting kicked out, game freezing and ending, etc). It even has a worse tick rate than Splatoon had (only 16hz), 30% slower. 

I never said that I thought it was always free? Don't know where you got that. 

I didn't throw insults. Haha. You need to rethink what you consider an insult than, because you said "I'm not going to do the same to you", but then called me intentionally ignorant. So either we both "threw insults" (honestly silly) or we both didn't.

I wasn't calling you intentionally ignorant, I was responding to your comment from the previous post which I thought was implying that I was intentionally ignorant, to which I was denying. Again, I was never calling you ignorant, but was responding to this line from your previous post, which felt insulting to me, "It seems to me like you are just purposefully being ignorant to try and have a blissful result. "

The Wii U was definitely better than the Switch but didn't give access to free games with new multiplayer capabilities or cloud saves. 

I never called you intentionally ignorant nor did I insult you. You called me ignorant, on the other hand. Again, I was responding to the line about how you said I was being "purposefully ignorant." I was denying that saying no one can be that, because to be ignorant means you are unaware (I'm using the word you here in a general sense), and no one can be intentionally unaware.

I have a feeling there is some communication errors going on here.

I honestly have no interest at all in discussing this thing. What I DID have an interest in discussing was the, you know, paid online. 



COKTOE said:
Medisti said:
This is pretty sad. Better get petitions for Sony and Xbox as well, because they also delete your cloud saves as space is needed when your sub lapses, and yet cost three times as much.

They cost 3 times as much, but are more than 3 times better. I did the science work using a series of models and equations, and it's true.

The service is going to move forward no matter how much we complain or sign petitions. Compare making no money off of 20 million users getting free online to making some money off of 1 million paying and you'll see why Nintendo doesn't care.



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