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GProgrammer said:
$1000 says that they're comparing 2 different things.
I assume Adam Lankford only considers what we typically think of as mass shootings,, some lone person going out and shooting people for some warped reason
the other study probably just considers all shootings, eg war,crime etc

Do you consider if someone go's and robs a bank and shoots 3 people dead a mass shooting? Or a father shooting his wife and children.
Yes they are mass shootings but not really in the sense most people use it as

Yep this. I doubt the truck based terror attacks and such others were considered for the study. Based on the number of mass high school shootings i hear about, a nu er like 30% of global total makes sense to me. 



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There's also a CDC study out there that shows guns actually save more than twice the amount of people they kill in the US. The perception of gun control is so skewed.

To be fair, my opinion has only changed in the last 6 months to a year on the matter. You just need to go out there and read news from the other aisle sometimes. Look at an issue from another perspective.



Naum said:
Why the sudden uprise of threads like this?? no matter what different studies says US gunlaws are freaking stupid. it worked in 18th century but not now.

What's "stupid" about the gun laws?



GProgrammer said:
$1000 says that they're comparing 2 different things.
I assume Adam Lankford only considers what we typically think of as mass shootings,, some lone person going out and shooting people for some warped reason
the other study probably just considers all shootings, eg war,crime etc

Do you consider if someone go's and robs a bank and shoots 3 people dead a mass shooting? Or a father shooting his wife and children.
Yes they are mass shootings but not really in the sense most people use it as

It does get difficult when you start including instances like this:

"About 40 suspected Taliban fighters killed six Afghan soldiers and one Afghan driver who were working for the American Aid organization [...]"

"Eight civilians were killed in clashes between the Taliban and NATO troops [...]"

Is it technically a mass shooting? Sure, but it doesn't really fit with what most people think of when they speak about mass shootings. If you include acts like this, which fall more closely in line with "acts of war" than the typical "mass shooter", I don't think anyone would be surprised to see the numbers go up for places like Afghanistan.

And these numbers likely largely skew the overall picture of things. In Afghanistan alone, there were 116 Mass shooting events, and there was one which sounded like it fit the description of what I think about when I think about "mass shootings":

"An assailant opened fire on civilians in Najiban village [...]. At least 12 people were killed and six others injured. This was the second village attack committed by the assailant, United States Army Staff Sergeant Robert Bales [...]"

So, the most "mass shooter"-ish "mass shooting" in Afghanistan was committed by an American...



Naum said:
Why the sudden uprise of threads like this?? no matter what different studies says US gunlaws are freaking stupid. it worked in 18th century but not now.

I agree with you.  There is far too much restriction of gun ownership in the USA.  The idea that scary looking guns are treated differently than hunting rifles, even though they're no different in effect/performance is ridiculous, as are laws banning magazines of certain capacities, varying types of ammo, etc.  There is a basic human right to do as one wishes so long as you're not hurting anyone else.  Owning and using guns is no different.  But, essentially all governments in the USA (and the rest of the world) infringe upon this right all the time.  



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More fake news coming from the same topic makers lol. Some people are not even here to talk about games or sales.



Considering the number of deaths on other countries, like Brazil, it's easy to call BS on this study.



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RolStoppable said:
gergroy said:

The colors on the map are based on the intentional murder rate in the country... the more intentional murder... the darker the color...

If that's the case, then I'll scrap my plans to move to Greenland.

You just have to think of it like the purge.  Survival of the fittest, I’m sure you would do fine!  



Well, that's all right then. As long as you're not the worst, carry on.



Chris Hu said:
Sure there are countries that are far more dangerous then the USA but that being said the USA is nowhere near being one of the the safest countries in the world.

I would like to think the US is safer than a vast majority of countries. Much of the violence is also gang related, so not being involved with gangs is helpful if you wanna stay alive. Essentially, much of the crime in the country tends to be in concentrated areas. Hence, crime could go down significantly if gangs were dealt with.

I guess its interesting to know where countries rank in mass shootings. But I am more concerned with the overall violent crime and murders in a country. For example, Mexico has significantly more muders than the US and an even bigger gang crime, with a smaller population. That should be more concerning than who has more mass shootings.



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