Well lets make a movie about the rise of feminism in the 60s and have most of the actors be men. No problem right? You don't hate men do you?

Im just saying...

I've never had problems playing female characters, like ever. But that Battlefield-character is just so ridiculous with her prosthetic arm. And just like other people have said they attack people who voice their objection

great point. I think the majority of "guys" upset because the way EA especially patrick have handled the situation by blaming on men being misogynist to hide the real issue. I have seen people complain about the color pallet, Dude with a katana.. but it was EA who made it a gender issue, hence people started more about it.

or heavenly sword, parasite eve, Lost legacy, hell blade. i think most SJW are confuses as to any criticism thrown at a women as being against them, but the fact is people are complaining the way women are being implemented in games and branding this something as new way of equality, which is not the case as nothing has changed women have played important role in games, its just SJW wants to point out the obvious and take credit for it, which is pissing off most gamers

of course the movie was terrible but the problem was instead of focusing on the script that movie focused on sending a message about equality during its press tour, which put off lot of people hence poor opening, You just cannot play with peoples nostalgia to make some moral statement, we dont want the memory to be tarnished, same thing happened with oceans 8, and star cast blamed patriarch for its failure, If equality is that important why not create something original like Kill Bill, Charlies Angel??

And there have been enough example now too suggest that forcing something down the viewers throats to gain talking points on social media to generate hype will never workout for the end product.

Though some people are taking the matter too seriously, to summarize that men feel insecure because there's female characters in a game shows some lack of basic reasoning. You don't see anyone complaining about Lara Croft in Tomb Raider, or Resident Evil's cast of equally memorable female characters. Just to name a few of the top of my head, there was no one complaining when games like Perfect Dark, Gravity Rush, Silent Hill 3, Bayonetta, Nier Automata or the latest Uncharted and The Last of Us 2 were announced with female protagonists. There's no "insecure male manpigs" on the youtube comments of games like Saint's Row, Skyrim, Fallout or Gta Online when it was announced that you can play with a female character.

What i do think people are complaining is the fact that yes, there were women serving in WWII, but they definetly didn't have the heavy presence that is being shown by EA. Some are interpreting it as catering to SWJ audience by enforcing diversity just for the sake of it. If it was a modern setting, like was the case when COD Ghosts introduced a female option, i think nobody would mind. And if you think only male gamers are taking issue, even my girlfriend, who games regularly, think they're doing it for political BS rather than a genuine motive.

Like i said, some idiots are taking it too far to the point that they do sound like insecure manchilds, but their argument shouldn't soeak for the whole community.
I for one don't give a shit. As long as the game is good, i'll give it a go.

To me, it was more that EA was bent on politicising their game and pushing an SJW agenda with their marketing than just women being in the game that turned me off BFV.

I don't care whether I play as a woman or a man, in fact, most cosmetics look cooler on the woman character model in COD. BO4's Battery character model (a female btw) easily looks the best among the other specialists. The thing is COD didn't put women front and center and make them an integral focus of their marketing i.e. pandering to a rather minor demographic.

Pandering just turns me off, a game is first and foremost supposed to entertain, sure it can be used as a platform to push a pro women campaign but that shouldn't be the focus of any game's marketing. Moreover, revising history and making women out to be more than they were in WW2 is disrespectful to the troops that actually fought in WW2. They are on the cover of BFV, it just makes it as if women were the heroes of WW2 when they were simply not. Yes, they were important in many other ways, behind the scenes mostly though.


My only concern is that EA's agressive pro SJW push has been leaked into the narratives of BFV's campaign. I'm almost certain that the campaign will be pro SJW and I will obviously hate that. Doesn't matter anyway, I have the game preordered. I'll most probably play more BO4 anyway since I prefer COD over BF.

I don't think anyone with an ounce of common sense would make any complains if there was a chapter or a whole game about Lyudmila Pavlichenko, aka Lady Death.

You're completely missing the point, especially with that pathetic "fragile masculinity" nonsense. People are finally starting to be fed up with anticultural communists destroying our culture, civilization, values and societies. People in the West are finally starting to take notice of just how destructive communism is (as if every single past example wasn't enough... smh). The way EA presented this issue, the way the CEO voiced his opinion made it clear that we're talking about yet another brick in the wall. It was clear this was part of the ideological warfare that's ravaging the whole White Man's World and people are treating it accordingly. This has nothing to do with "men not wanting women in games", since such a claim is simply stupid and not even worth debating. This is a part of something much, much bigger than gaming and while most people aren't aware of the real scope of the problem, at least finally they are aware that there is a problem.

Define "tolerance". There are at least 3 completely different definitions of this word in use and they actually are mutually exclusive.

It's not about female characters at all. It's about politics. Keep that out of my entertainment.