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What Nintendo IP would mostly get an M-rated entry?

Zelda 2 3.70%
 
Metroid 32 59.26%
 
Sin & Punishment 6 11.11%
 
Xenoblade 3 5.56%
 
Fire Emblem 3 5.56%
 
Other (be specific) 8 14.81%
 
Total:54

If you mean by M rating, Metroid but I doubt it will happen. T at best.
Althought, it really depends on what do you consider mature.



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Pavolink said:
If you mean by M rating, Metroid but I doubt it will happen. T at best.
Althought, it really depends on what do you consider mature.

Good point there, for example, I consider shows such as Avatar and Adventure Time very mature in their approach to sensitive subjects. We shouldn't correlate rating with maturity.

O.T If Nintendo were interested in "mature" content, they would've kept Killer Instinct. 



Green098 said:

Found this quote from Tetsuya Takahashi of Monolith Soft; "Completely serious though, I would like to do a Z rated game (equivalent of M in America), and just do whatever the hell I feel like doing"

https://www.resetera.com/threads/koh-kojima-wants-to-make-xenoblade-x2-xenoblade-3.44474/

Seems like Monolith Soft is interested.

Xenogears pushed the boundaries with nudity and sexual themes... even if they were mostly scenes with sprites. Though there is some  nudity in a cutscene.

Xenosaga Episode 1 had a psychopath terrorizing a girl by murdering other little girls, breaking their bones, before using a blade to cut off his left arm then cutting off his own head.

There isn’t really anything like that since, but I would like to see Taka go back to doing crazier stuff again. I miss it.



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Luigi's Mansion, we already had a dead baby in the first game, may as well.



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super_etecoon said:
DonFerrari said:

Existentialism, post life, mental ilness, etc.

While these are "mature" themes, they won't cause the ESRB to issue a Mature warning on the box.  I'm all for those ideas, though.

I agree you can see some of those themes in a Teen rated game or with the right spin a E rated Kirby game.



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The_Liquid_Laser said:
Mnementh said:

Bayonetta is owned by Sega and Platinum.

Didn't realize that Sega was involved.  I guess Nintendo's best shot at mature IP really is Metroid.

My thoughts exactly.

DonFerrari said:
I rather they made a new IP.

To be fair, Nintendo has shown with Splatoon and ARMS that they're open to making new IPs.

Green098 said:

Found this quote from Tetsuya Takahashi of Monolith Soft; "Completely serious though, I would like to do a Z rated game (equivalent of M in America), and just do whatever the hell I feel like doing"

https://www.resetera.com/threads/koh-kojima-wants-to-make-xenoblade-x2-xenoblade-3.44474/

Seems like Monolith Soft is interested.

Yay! :D

DonFerrari said:
Mnementh said:

No, the rating only considers if a content may be harmful for a children. For the rating it does not matter if the content can't be understood by the child or doesn't appeal to it.

Well I remember seeing several movies with 14-16 without sex or violence. But sure I may be wrong.

But they still likely had plenty of substance abuse and words like fuck, shit, cunt and twat used very frequently. Planes Trains and Automobiles was only rated R because of Steve Martin's f-bomb rush at a car rental service.

DragonRouge said:
Pavolink said:
If you mean by M rating, Metroid but I doubt it will happen. T at best.
Althought, it really depends on what do you consider mature.

Good point there, for example, I consider shows such as Avatar and Adventure Time very mature in their approach to sensitive subjects. We shouldn't correlate rating with maturity.

O.T If Nintendo were interested in "mature" content, they would've kept Killer Instinct. 

And those shows are able to be mature without graphic violence, sex, drugs or extreme profanity.

Agreed. Wish Nintendo had kept Killer Instinct, and really, ALL of Rare's pre-Microsoft games.



CaptainExplosion said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:

Didn't realize that Sega was involved.  I guess Nintendo's best shot at mature IP really is Metroid.

My thoughts exactly.

DonFerrari said:
I rather they made a new IP.

To be fair, Nintendo has shown with Splatoon and ARMS that they're open to making new IPs.

Green098 said:

Found this quote from Tetsuya Takahashi of Monolith Soft; "Completely serious though, I would like to do a Z rated game (equivalent of M in America), and just do whatever the hell I feel like doing"

https://www.resetera.com/threads/koh-kojima-wants-to-make-xenoblade-x2-xenoblade-3.44474/

Seems like Monolith Soft is interested.

Yay! :D

DonFerrari said:

Well I remember seeing several movies with 14-16 without sex or violence. But sure I may be wrong.

But they still likely had plenty of substance abuse and words like fuck, shit, cunt and twat used very frequently. Planes Trains and Automobiles was only rated R because of Steve Martin's f-bomb rush at a car rental service.

DragonRouge said:

Good point there, for example, I consider shows such as Avatar and Adventure Time very mature in their approach to sensitive subjects. We shouldn't correlate rating with maturity.

O.T If Nintendo were interested in "mature" content, they would've kept Killer Instinct. 

And those shows are able to be mature without graphic violence, sex, drugs or extreme profanity.

Agreed. Wish Nintendo had kept Killer Instinct, and really, ALL of Rare's pre-Microsoft games.

Sure, and making a new IP with a different rating or genre is better on the making more diverse games than just changing an existing one (and maybe making people hate you).

Yes it could be due to the language more than the content itself.



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DonFerrari said:
CaptainExplosion said:

My thoughts exactly.

To be fair, Nintendo has shown with Splatoon and ARMS that they're open to making new IPs.

Yay! :D

But they still likely had plenty of substance abuse and words like fuck, shit, cunt and twat used very frequently. Planes Trains and Automobiles was only rated R because of Steve Martin's f-bomb rush at a car rental service.

And those shows are able to be mature without graphic violence, sex, drugs or extreme profanity.

Agreed. Wish Nintendo had kept Killer Instinct, and really, ALL of Rare's pre-Microsoft games.

Sure, and making a new IP with a different rating or genre is better on the making more diverse games than just changing an existing one (and maybe making people hate you).

And it's easier than trying to buy back Perfect Dark and Conker's Bad Fur Day.

Maybe Nintendo could make their own follow-up to Perfect Dark, complete with bringing in Grant Kirkhope to compose for it. ^^



Nity is not going to create mature games, they will keep the "family friend" image forever, but...
Fire emblem, imho the audience for FE is already on the mature side. Make an fire emblem mature contend



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CaptainExplosion said:
DonFerrari said:

Sure, and making a new IP with a different rating or genre is better on the making more diverse games than just changing an existing one (and maybe making people hate you).

And it's easier than trying to buy back Perfect Dark and Conker's Bad Fur Day.

Maybe Nintendo could make their own follow-up to Perfect Dark, complete with bringing in Grant Kirkhope to compose for it. ^^

Easier, cheapier and perhaps even more effective than buying those since not always nostalgy makes good games or sales.

What type of genre would you like Ninty to start investing?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994