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Barkley said:

It might, all it would mean is PS4 can't play with Switch/XBO players and vice-versa.

Rocket League is on all platforms after all. Switch/XBO/PC can play together, PS4/PC can play together, but PS4 and Switch/XBO can't join games with each other.

 

 

Bofferbrauer2 said:

Sony allows Cross-play with phones and PC, but not with it's competing consoles, meaning no cross-play with Xbox or Nintendo. Microsoft and Nintendo allow Cross-play with anything, but since Sony doesn't want to play with them Playstation blocks itself out.

DQ10 is an anomaly I think, because it allow nintendo and ps4 cross play



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Mnementh said:
alternine said:

Yeah they're going to ignore 81.2 million users...lol. Nice PR move though Bethesda

What? Do you really think no PS4-owner has a phone? Or a computer?

Or better games to play.



Qwark said:

If they really had balls they would make that statement about Fallout 76. But no its about an insignificant card game instead. So that shows how much Bethesda really cares. 

Fallout 76 isn't a crossplay game though, and it was never going to be one. Keyboard + mouse on PC vs controller on console isn't fair in a competitive shooter like Fallout 76 where the keyboard + mouse player can aim accurately faster than a controller player can. 

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Mnementh said:
alternine said:

Yeah they're going to ignore 81.2 million users...lol. Nice PR move though Bethesda

What? Do you really think no PS4-owner has a phone? Or a computer?

What really interests me about this take, is that it's apparently fine to ignore the hundred+ million PC gamers out there on multiple clients, as well as those that game on mobile, eyt it's absolutely not ok to ignore PS4 users.


As far as things go as well, Sony is not the overlord of this industry, 81m users or not, no publisher should bow to them and just let them set rules for everything.



jenpol said:
Barkley said:

It might, all it would mean is PS4 can't play with Switch/XBO players and vice-versa.

Rocket League is on all platforms after all. Switch/XBO/PC can play together, PS4/PC can play together, but PS4 and Switch/XBO can't join games with each other.

 

 

Bofferbrauer2 said:

Sony allows Cross-play with phones and PC, but not with it's competing consoles, meaning no cross-play with Xbox or Nintendo. Microsoft and Nintendo allow Cross-play with anything, but since Sony doesn't want to play with them Playstation blocks itself out.

DQ10 is an anomaly I think, because it allow nintendo and ps4 cross play

If that's true, it probably has to do with it's age (released 5 years ago), predating current policies



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JRPGfan said:
Lets see if hes fine with loseing like 2/3rds of the console market then....
If the game fails to make the profits they project for it, Im sure he ll change his tune :p

Yeah, I mean it's obviously impossible for a game to succeed if it isn't on Playstation, amirite?



Well, this is new.

Read.

Chazore said:
Mnementh said:

What? Do you really think no PS4-owner has a phone? Or a computer?

What really interests me about this take, is that it's apparently fine to ignore the hundred+ million PC gamers out there on multiple clients, as well as those that game on mobile, eyt it's absolutely not ok to ignore PS4 users.


As far as things go as well, Sony is not the overlord of this industry, 81m users or not, no publisher should bow to them and just let them set rules for everything.

- "What really interests me about this take, is that it's apparently fine to ignore the hundred+ million PC gamers out there on multiple clients, as well as those that game on mobile"

I'm not sure what you're saying here. Are you implying that not allowing cross-play, an issue for a small, vocal minority of players, and does absolutely not deny players the right to play this game, although it comes with a caveat, a well known caveat, that consumers can choose to either buy into because they don't give a shit, or pass on because it's undesirable, is comparable to threatening to shut out an entire userbase entirely?

- "As far as things go as well, Sony is not the overlord of this industry"

Maybe not. But there's a strong argument to made that among the pantheon of gaming powers, Sony claims a seat at the head of the table. Regardless, the power they wield in this sphere is substantial. They don't need to be overlords to dictate their own policy, especially as it concerns rinky-dink mobile card games.

- "no publisher should bow to them and just let them set rules for everything"

That's exactly how this shit works. All the platform holders have rules in place that go well beyond this cross-play nonsense. Bethesda is free withhold their product as they see fit. And Sony is free to, and I can't stress this enough for this particular instance, not give a fuck.

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V-r0cK said:
Intrinsic said:
Cool. Now do this for Fallout 76.

Stick it to sony!!! Show em who's boss!!!!!!

Seems like Bethesda just talking big only on small fights they think they can win, Bethesda doesn't have the balls to do that for Fallout 76. 

Not sure I'd call it a small fight. Legends, being free-to-play and available on smart phones, can be much bigger than Fallout 76.

Also, 76 isn't a card game that relies on micro-transactions.

Jaxyfoo said:
This absolutely is a PR led campaign. Microsoft absolutely want their services on Playstation consoles going forward. They absolutely want to be in control of a single platform service. They want to sell Sony's 100+ million players as their own. Bethesda too, want to sell things like the vast Eso community on PS4 to one a tenth of the size on Xbox.

The whole campaign has been PR led from the start, and jumped upon by Xbox fans who are using it mainly as an attack on Sony, because I don't know any of the Xbox guys in my gaming circles who want to really play with Sony fans. They are using this whole issue to further the none stop console warring.

I don't want my game time to be an extension of what is happening constantly on Facebook, Twitter and gaming forums. Gaming is my break from that rubbish. If I meet somebody Who I like, I want to add them as friends, to play every game with, not think nm, they are not on PS4. I would rather give up gaming, then play in toxic console warring environments.

Sony should not have left themselves open how they did not too long ago with their Fortnite account hijacking. I'm usually against console war nonsense but considering how BS that debacle was, I'm welcoming it this instance.

Jaxyfoo said:

What does need to change this gen is Sony need to stop blocking cross progression, and simply block off exclusive content from carrying out of Sony ecosystem, such as exclusive skins. Then Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft need to sit down together and make a discord style system that unifies all systems from next gen onwards. A full unified platform is definitely the future, but the gaming community needs to leave behind the toxicity and overblown rivalry based on pieces of plastic for it to be a good thing.

Unifying all systems? Good luck convincing current Sony to agree to that.



spemanig said:
JRPGfan said:
Lets see if hes fine with loseing like 2/3rds of the console market then....
If the game fails to make the profits they project for it, Im sure he ll change his tune :p

Yeah, I mean it's obviously impossible for a game to succeed if it isn't on Playstation, amirite?

It's almost like no game out there exists for other user bases and customers/publishers to pay for other than Sony



I think Sony will bend the knee.