PwerlvlAmy said:
The thread alone proves what I said is the truth. Not a blanket statement at all. I agree with the consensus that Jones is a moron, but people agreeing with him being shut down/silenced/censored because they don't like him or his view points proves exactly what I said earlier. Free speech only applies to people that agree with that persons view point. Evidence has been presented here of exactly that.
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This is not a free speech issue.
Free speech in the United States, as described in the First Amendment means you may not be arrested by the government or have your property confiscated by the government because of what you say.
Private entities like Facebook and Apple are under zero legal or moral obligations to lend their privately owned platforms to people like Jones. That is their private property. It doesn't belong to you, the government, Jones, or his followers. Nowhere in the First Amendment, or anyplace else in the Constitution, are you given even a single right to have a Facebook account or sell your views on iTunes.
It's the same as if I owned a business and someone took it upon themselves to sit in the middle of my shop wearing a white hood and waving the Confederate flag. Their free speech doesn't apply to my property. If they don't respond to my requests to leave peacefully, I call the police and have them dragged out in handcuffs, and I will press criminal charges for trespassing. Their free speech isn't being violated by my having them arrested and charged. They can go to a park and do that shit.
Jones's free speech has not been silenced. He is not in jail. He has not had his property confiscated. Nobody is stopping him from saying what he wants. They are denying him the use of the property they own and pay for to broadcast his views. He is free to broadcast his views over any other platform he can find, including marching through Austin while wearing a sandwich boaed and screaming about gay frogs and Sandy Hook through a bullhorn. He is also welcome to open his wallet and hire the services of one of the many, many IT professionals in Austin to build a platform where he makes the rules and can broadcast whatever the hell he wants with no restrictions, because he is now broadcasting from his own property. Even at that, though, advertisers are not obligated to pay him for ad space on his show even if it will go broke without their money. The fact that the new platform won't have the same reach as FB or Apple is the problem of Alex Jones and only Alex Jones, not Tim Cook or Zuckerberg.
Having a Facebook account is a privilege, not a right. Selling things on iTunes is a privilege, not a right.
Free speech only guarantees you the right to speak your mind, not a platform.
Last edited by SanAndreasX - on 07 August 2018