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DonFerrari said:

Complaint go a long way before defamation, and I'm pretty sure you know the difference. Also stating that these companies have an agenda that they already confessed in senate hearing can't be determined as defamation since it's truth.

Complaining can lead to Defamation. Any company, organization or individual is more than in their rights to take your complaint through the legal process in most free countries.

I am not suggesting there is any agenda.

DonFerrari said:

Strangely enough the behavior of Facebook was questioned also by Brazilian government due to they sticking with a single side of the spectrum to give mass banning. So if we want to use law suits as any metrics, there you go.

Good.

DonFerrari said:

Just got another defense for my "defamation" against Facebook, they have named their offices with left wing personalities of Brazil (besides the director having worked for President Dilma from the left wing party that ruled the country for 13 years).

Awesome.
There is inherently nothing wrong with being left wing.
Just like there is nothing wrong with being right wing.

They are simply two sides of a coin, two perspectives, both need to come to the center to outlay their arguments... And the majority (Who are in the center) will go with whoever offers the most compelling argument.

The left and the right also keep each other in balance, so we don't go down a dangerous path, because both extremes are as crazy as each other.



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Pemalite said:
DonFerrari said:

Complaint go a long way before defamation, and I'm pretty sure you know the difference. Also stating that these companies have an agenda that they already confessed in senate hearing can't be determined as defamation since it's truth.

Complaining can lead to Defamation. Any company, organization or individual is more than in their rights to take your complaint through the legal process in most free countries.

I am not suggesting there is any agenda.

DonFerrari said:

Strangely enough the behavior of Facebook was questioned also by Brazilian government due to they sticking with a single side of the spectrum to give mass banning. So if we want to use law suits as any metrics, there you go.

Good.

DonFerrari said:

Just got another defense for my "defamation" against Facebook, they have named their offices with left wing personalities of Brazil (besides the director having worked for President Dilma from the left wing party that ruled the country for 13 years).

Awesome.
There is inherently nothing wrong with being left wing.
Just like there is nothing wrong with being right wing.

They are simply two sides of a coin, two perspectives, both need to come to the center to outlay their arguments... And the majority (Who are in the center) will go with whoever offers the most compelling argument.

The left and the right also keep each other in balance, so we don't go down a dangerous path, because both extremes are as crazy as each other.

Still not sure why you keep trying to drive the point of complain to defamation.

And sure there isn't anything bad about being left or right, but there is on being it and pretending to be neutral and to obey your TOS when you aren't.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:

Still not sure why you keep trying to drive the point of complain to defamation.

And sure there isn't anything bad about being left or right, but there is on being it and pretending to be neutral and to obey your TOS when you aren't.

Are you suggesting I am far-left? Because that would most certainly be a false assertion on your behalf.



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Pemalite said:
DonFerrari said:

Still not sure why you keep trying to drive the point of complain to defamation.

And sure there isn't anything bad about being left or right, but there is on being it and pretending to be neutral and to obey your TOS when you aren't.

Are you suggesting I am far-left? Because that would most certainly be a false assertion on your behalf.

Nope. Have no idea why you got that interpretation.

I'm talking about the companies on OP that pretend to be neutral but act biased and against their on TOS. And totally lost on why you would drive the discussion on criticizing their stance on this and other cases as defamation.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

SpokenTruth said:
o_O.Q said:

1). "pizza gate"

i don't know much about this besides the claim that it was about pedophiles... but as far as i know pedophile rings were discovered 

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/42108748/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/t/massive-online-pedophile-ring-busted-cops/

https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2018-03-12/british-pedophile-ring-abused-1-000-children-newspaper

alex jones apparently was instrumental in the saving of all these children... whereas people like you would have swept this under the rug because it sounded too crazy

 

2). "chem trails"
it says something about pesticides from crop dusters? can you expand

 

3). " frogs turning gay"

uh this is what he's talking about

https://www.livescience.com/10957-pesticide-turns-male-frogs-females.html

 

4). "All that bullshit is mostly funded by selling you tons of snake oil on the side."

what is snake oil supposed to do? i've never bought it and never seen someone selling it

 

5). "If you even believe 1/5 of the bullshit he says you have serious mental issues. "

well to me it depends on the evidence

1). "Pizzagate" is the conspiracy that Hillary Clinton was running a pedophile organization from the back of a pizza shop in DC.  It has nothing to do with actual pedophile rings in England and The Netherland.  I also cannot find any connection to Alex Jones saving the children from those European sex rings.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizzagate_conspiracy_theory

2). "Chemtrails" is a conspiracy theory that attempts to explain the phenomenon known as "contrails" (which is short for "condensation trail").  Given certain atmospheric conditions, aircraft can leave behind trails of water vapor or clouds. The conspiracy states that the contrails are actually chemicals the US government sprays into the atmosphere to control the population.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemtrail_conspiracy_theory

3). "Gay frogs".  This is a theory that states that pesticides and other chemicals are turning certain species of frog populations gay.  The truth is that many species of amphibians can spontaneously change their sex if their populations are too unbalanced to enable species propagation. They do this with basically a chemical sex change.  The herbicide atrazine is suspected of mimicking the function of that frog chemical and therefore also creating the sex changes.  Only a couple of studies were able to replicate the results and they required exposure doses 10 times the level of the herbicide (30 ng/L rather than 3 ng/L) which means it's exceptionally unlikely to happen outside of lab environments.

4). "Snake oil" is an old phrase used in the US.  It became popular during the "old west" days (1800s) when devious salesmen would sell "miracle drugs" from town to town to unsuspecting townsfolk.  Of course, they were always fake.  Real snake oil has been used in eastern medicine for centuries and the swindlers were calling their miracle cures "snake oil" yet they contained none at all and cured nothing at all.  The modern take on the phrase are sites like InfoWars (and countless others) that have lots of side bar advertising for "miracle cures" ...which have no medically documented health benefits and often don't even contain what they claim to.  They are just trying to rip you off like the snake oil salesmen of the old west.

5). InfoWars has a reputation for having an exceptionally low ratio of truth to ...bullshit.  And even when they do come close to the truth, they still often find a way of adding in something completely untrue simply because it plays better to their base than the untainted news.

DonFerrari said:

Funny enough in a post later you agreed that there are cases of privately owned public spaces.

And also I didn't say they are law defined as basically public space, I said they work as seemly public space. You were so worried about trying to show your domain on definitions that you missed the point.

That's a contract.  I told you that in that thread.  It is an agreement between the city and the developer/owner to use that private space for public use.  That is NOT you saying, "This store is public now and I will use it as such." Nor is it the city stating you must use your private land/building as public space AFTER the fact and without any contractual agreement. 

" "Pizzagate" is the conspiracy that Hillary Clinton was running a pedophile organization from the back of a pizza shop in DC."

i'm talking about alex blowing the whistle on the pedophile rings

although since he's been ousted i can't find his reports

 

""Chemtrails" is a conspiracy theory that attempts to explain the phenomenon known as "contrails""

i looked into it and i found results on crop dusters

and monsanto

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/monsanto-suppressing-evidence-of-cancerous-herbicide-in-food/

 

 "Gay frogs".  This is a theory that states that pesticides and other chemicals are turning certain species of frog populations gay."

did you read the link i posted?

https://www.livescience.com/10957-pesticide-turns-male-frogs-females.html

 

""Snake oil" is an old phrase used in the US.  It became popular during the "old west" days (1800s) when devious salesmen would sell "miracle drugs" from town to town to unsuspecting townsfolk."

what are the properties of snake oil that make is a miracle drug?

 

"The modern take on the phrase are sites like InfoWars (and countless others) that have lots of side bar advertising for "miracle cures""

what makes you think that the supplements alex jones sells are not effective?

 

" InfoWars has a reputation for having an exceptionally low ratio of truth to ...bullshit. "

first off this is not true but regardless so do CNN and the other major news networks anyway so what's your point?

their main focus for the past few decades has been to justify the ridiculous war on drugs, wars in other countries based on lies, false narratives such as black people being statically more likely to be shot by police etc etc etc



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He broke the terms of service, could be charged with defamatory slander.
Seriously, stirring up his fanbase to go and harass the mothers of dead children is indefensible. It’s cult-like.

It’s time for everyone to leave Alex Jonestown, his koolaid has toxic shit in it.



I describe myself as a little dose of toxic masculinity.

Bandorr said:
DonFerrari said:

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
     Because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
     Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
     Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Using a speech about Nazi invading towns to defend someone who time after time helped populate disgusting and dangerous conspiracy theories, even going so far as to help people harass grieving parents - is one of the most disgusting things I've ever seen anyone do.

I am horrified, disturbed, and down right willing to vomit up my dinner to see something so pathetic right now.

I should be shocked by that comparison, but that's just the typical Brazilian far-right. I'm not surprised.



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Flilix said:

Finally. It's just disgusting how this guy made a fortune out the paranoia and social weakness of his viewers.

Like most of the media does, but i guess they're allowed because of double standards in politics?

Also Facebook is a big offender on what you said, alot more bigger than Alex Jones can or could ever be.