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Forums - Sales Discussion - Japan sales (Week 25) Media Create/Famitsu/Dengeki - June 18 - June 24, 2018

OTBWY on 27 June 2018
Farsala said:
OTBWY said:

But then again, what games released in the same timeframe? You see, it is difficult to compare this to other releases. For one, I believed this (MHW) would have sold better no matter what and second, not having other big releases (big releases that would typically sell in Japan). A lot of things factor in. Prices for example (which could disprove my point). My conclusion was that it would continue selling relatively higher than it did, over a longer period. I do agree with the first sentence.

Well when we can argue yet another factor for example attach ratio, it would seem that MHW has the biggest disadvantage. MHW has about a 40% attach ratio, compared to most MH's only doing about 10-20% attach ratio. Saturation point is at its highest for PS4 MH fans. But I have already argued for those things multiple times before. My point is the legs are quite standard, and one shouldn't expect too much more from MHW.

Well two things before you bring in attach ratio, 1: it still depends on what titles were released with it at that time (on the 3DS in the same timeframe for example) and 2: look at the titles released in Japan, which sold the most and continue to sell the most. The 3DS for example had together with Monster Hunter, many games like Pokemon, Smash, Yokai watch on it released which sold big numbers over a pretty long stretch. Those factors can be taken into account. This MHW had, in my opinion, a clear and open way to have great legs in Japan.



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outlawauron on 27 June 2018
Acevil said:
OTBWY said:
So yeah the baseline for Switch is between 45-50k for Switch. Mario Tennis had a nice opening for what it is. I am surprised that New Gundam Breaker sold that much actually, lots of backlash from Japanese gamers who are fans of the franchise. Guess that's what happens when you switch to a new engine/studio. The PS4 is at a base 20k, which was expected.

I always found breaker to not be as good as the lets say versus series, did the new engine really make it that much worse?

New Gundam Breaker is the worst Gundam game in over a decade. The very worst since Crossfire in 2006. Once people started playing it, the game got so much hate. Stores are flooded with trade-ins to the point where they don't even give you 1/3 of the value for it. Kinda glad as games this bad shouldn't be rewarded.



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Farsala on 27 June 2018
OTBWY said:
Farsala said:

Well when we can argue yet another factor for example attach ratio, it would seem that MHW has the biggest disadvantage. MHW has about a 40% attach ratio, compared to most MH's only doing about 10-20% attach ratio. Saturation point is at its highest for PS4 MH fans. But I have already argued for those things multiple times before. My point is the legs are quite standard, and one shouldn't expect too much more from MHW.

Well two things before you bring in attach ratio, 1: it still depends on what titles were released with it at that time (on the 3DS in the same timeframe for example) and 2: look at the titles released in Japan, which sold the most and continue to sell the most. The 3DS for example had together with Monster Hunter, many games like Pokemon, Smash, Yokai watch on it released which sold big numbers over a pretty long stretch. Those factors can be taken into account. This MHW had, in my opinion, a clear and open way to have great legs in Japan.

On the contrary I think that is an advantage for 3DS games. Pokemon, Smash, Yokai, etc. will push HW and people don't just buy one game, more like 5-10 games eventually. So MH on 3DS got help from other SW. While right now PS4 is in a dead zone software wise after a decent string of releases.

Theoretically, if MHW released in Jan, then in March we have FFXVI, and in June DQXII then I think MHW would have better sales.



outlawauron on 27 June 2018
Megiddo said:
Jranation said:

Which MC thread?

This one:

https://www.resetera.com/posts/9756594/

Look at the people who mention FIFA but do not mention Winning Eleven/PES, lol.

lol, it is kinda funny, but not really worth arguing about. Maybe those people don't realize that Winning Eleven is Pro Evo.



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zorg1000 on 27 June 2018
Farsala said:
zorg1000 said:

If i recall, a few months ago a handful of people were saying MHW would increase the baseline of PS4 throughout the rest of the year and overall sales this year would be considerably up YoY which is the opposite of what some of them are saying now.

Is the baseline not up though? Maybe not up YoY, but still higher than what it would be without it.

Well considering that MHW is selling less than 2k/week, i would say its doing next to nothing for hardware at the moment.



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Lonely_Dolphin on 27 June 2018

Was hoping +50k this week for Switch, but alas. Don't think Octopath is gonna make anymore of a difference. Do we have a date for YW4 yet? Probably the only chance of Switch hardware getting a significant boost before Pokemon.

EDIT: Mario Tennis Open on 3DS increased hardware sales from 43k the previous week to 55k, just to add further context to my dissatisfaction.

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jonathanalis on 27 June 2018

Not bad for switch, almost 10k above its baseline.
And seems that COMG underrepresents Nintendo titles.



Keybladewielder on 27 June 2018

Surprised that KH HD 1.5 + 2.5 actually climbed.
Mario Tennis had a good start and it will most probably have great legs.
Also surprised that Detroit still has not dropped out of the top 20 lol.



OTBWY on 27 June 2018
outlawauron said:
Acevil said:

I always found breaker to not be as good as the lets say versus series, did the new engine really make it that much worse?

New Gundam Breaker is the worst Gundam game in over a decade. The very worst since Crossfire in 2006. Once people started playing it, the game got so much hate. Stores are flooded with trade-ins to the point where they don't even give you 1/3 of the value for it. Kinda glad as games this bad shouldn't be rewarded.

Crossfire instantly brings chills down my spine. The game was so horrible.

I read about the trade-ins, but also why they hated it so much. Apparently the engine screwed up the gameplay so much, that it felt like a completely different game. Sound like melee players reacting to brawl.



Jranation on 27 June 2018
Lonely_Dolphin said:
Was hoping +50k this week for Switch, but alas. Don't think Octopath is gonna make anymore of a difference. Do we have a date for YW4 yet? Probably the only chance of Switch hardware getting a significant boost before Pokemon.

EDIT: Mario Tennis Open on 3DS increased hardware sales from 43k the previous week to 55k, just to add further context to my dissatisfaction.

What was the 3DS sales the Week before? 



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