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RolStoppable said:
SpokenTruth said:

I call serious BS.  Imagine how the Sony fanbase would react if SE put a bunch of mid tier games on the system but no Final Fantasy.  Or how Sony/MS fans would react is Activision put out a bunch of games on their system but no Call of Duty or Destiny.  Or Ubisoft without Far Cry and Assassins Creed.  Or EA without Battlefield, FIFA, Battlefront and Mass Effect.

Why use imagination when we have proof available?

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=185042

You could have just pointed to the Bayonetta 2 meltdown.



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routsounmanman said:
Xxain said:

Really? 

The user I qouted is right. Perception and reality just dont jive here. If there is anything that frustrates me it would be support begging, without actually supporting the great games that you already have available. The success of the Switch is not by Nintendo fans. It could never be. Too small of a box/range/taste. If from average gamers who buy games, unworried about Ip recognition"heey CAPCOM did that there but not here waaaah". They dont care.

 Ikaruga came out - How many people bought it?

Ikaruga? The bullet hell shoot em up? The GC era one? Yeah that ought to light up the charts...

What does era matter? I can guarantee if Capcom ported the original trilogy of RE games ya'll be throwing money at the monitor. Nobody here would turn down a FF compilation. Why is Ikaruga's sales history even a topic. It is a timeless classic. High critical reception. Why all these walls? Just get it. Its good.



Strange that they would at the same time do this https://gamingbolt.com/square-enix-doubles-down-on-its-multiplatform-approach



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

RolStoppable said:
Xxain said:

Really? 

The user I qouted is right. Perception and reality just dont jive here. If there is anything that frustrates me it would be support begging, without actually supporting the great games that you already have available. The success of the Switch is not by Nintendo fans. It could never be. Too small of a box/range/taste. If from average gamers who buy games, unworried about Ip recognition"heey CAPCOM did that there but not here waaaah". They dont care.

 Ikaruga came out - How many people bought it?

Was the list that has been posted previously incomplete? Because you speak of great games that are already available.

That you use Ikaruga as an example for lack of support from Nintendo fans puts your entire argument on very thin ice. Ikaruga didn't sell well on any platform it has been released on and that's a very common result for games from the developer Treasure. If that's the best example you've got, then you really have nothing.

I would gladly make a list of great readily available games. Im not making a sales comparison. Ikaruga is niche IP in a unmainstream genre which greatly contributes to sales history. What doees it matter though? Why is that a barrier to YOU buying it. We as gamers, who follow the market, know Ikaruga's quality. If you are looking for great games, then there is one right there or is it about specific games.   



Xxain said:
routsounmanman said:

Ikaruga? The bullet hell shoot em up? The GC era one? Yeah that ought to light up the charts...

What does era matter? I can guarantee if Capcom ported the original trilogy of RE games ya'll be throwing money at the monitor. Nobody here would turn down a FF compilation. Why is Ikaruga's sales history even a topic. It is a timeless classic. High critical reception. Why all these walls? Just get it. Its good.

Do you even know what Ikaruga is?

1) Bullet hell shooters are VERY NICHE.

2) Very old - albeit highly acclaimed one game. Not a remaster. Simple straight port. Do you expect Crash Trilogy (not remastered the old PS1 games) to have sold nearly as well as the new game?

As for RE compilation, of course it would sell better, it's a well established franchise, in a market that has proven many times that does buy such games. What's your point? 

And as it has been said, you cannot claim Nintendo fans are worse when it comes to port begging, or nagging when all users groups do it all the same. Case is, Xbox and PS users rarely have to put up with it.



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RolStoppable said:
Wyrdness said:

You could have just pointed to the Bayonetta 2 meltdown.

No. The topic is Square-Enix and the discussion evolved to how different fanbases react to the fact that certain games are not coming.

No it didn't . The actual topic is on the term suppport and what it actually means on this side of the forum. 



RolStoppable said:
DonFerrari said:
Strange that they would at the same time do this https://gamingbolt.com/square-enix-doubles-down-on-its-multiplatform-approach

Not that strange when the quote should be differently interpreted than it is in the article.

“Growth in the number of platforms is basically a good thing, and we intend to further advance our multiplatform approach,”

That's the sole sentence the article is built around, but what it most likely really means is that Square-Enix recognizes Switch as a viable console (hence "growth in the number of platforms") and therefore games that were planned to be multiplatform will aim to have a Switch release as well.

And advance multiplatform approach certainly makes sense of making a division devoted to Switch right? Even more because games made for Switch can't be ported to others.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

RolStoppable said:
Xxain said:

I would gladly make a list of great readily available games. Im not making a sales comparison. Ikaruga is niche IP in a unmainstream genre which greatly contributes to sales history. What doees it matter though? Why is that a barrier to YOU buying it. We as gamers, who follow the market, know Ikaruga's quality. If you are looking for great games, then there is one right there or is it about specific games.   

You are all over the place with your rant. This quickly moved from Square-Enix to all third parties.

Are you now asking me specifically why I haven't bought Ikaruga for Switch? I already own the game for GameCube.

And in case you missed it: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6412088

Lol no further questions your honor!!

close case.



34 years playing games.

 

Makes good sense for Square Enix with the Switch doing so well in Japan. Will have to see if any Western devs follow suit.



RolStoppable said:
DonFerrari said:

And advance multiplatform approach certainly makes sense of making a division devoted to Switch right? Even more because games made for Switch can't be ported to others.

Regarding your question, advancing the multiplatform approach to include Switch and setting up a division specifically for Switch game development are not mutually exclusive. It's clear that Switch will be the market leading console that supplants the 3DS, so it getting both exclusive and multiplatform content is a logical course of action.

My interpretation of your second sentence is that you don't like it that Switch third party support is improving.

Sorry but no. If they are approaching to have more multiplatform approach, creating divisions to create exclusives is the opposite movement.

I have no issue with Switch having more support (nor even if others are having less support because of it), but when putting only in Switch technical limitations aren't a reason. So'll see if Nintendo fans will complain about it, because when there are real limitations they complain, but when it is a market decision will they?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."