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How Much Will Solo Make WW?

Under $700M 56 60.87%
 
$700M-$800M 18 19.57%
 
$801M-$900M 12 13.04%
 
$901M-$1B 3 3.26%
 
Over $1B 3 3.26%
 
Total:92
Carl said:
Azuren said:

If you look at his Twitter, you'll notice his "About Me" accuses Star Wars fans as being insufferable. Much of what he's been saying has been relatively unprovoked.

Star Wars fans are some of the most insufferable on the planet, for a variety of reasons. I say this as a gigantic Star Wars fan.

thismeintiel said:

Nothing wrong with his tweets? Not trying to question your mod judgment, but are you suggesting that if someone said those things in here about the people not liking this film, it would be OK? Cause I'm pretty sure they would get moderated. And trust me, these guys are having a meltdown and generalizing everyone because their assumptions that the vast majority of people are like them are being shattered. 

This is why context is key and I asked to see what he was replying to.

And that doesn't make it okay for creators involved in Star Wars to double down and continue making fun of their fandom after Solo bombed.



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Azuren said:

And that doesn't make it okay for creators involved in Star Wars to double down and continue making fun of their fandom after Solo bombed.

That would depend on if he's still working with Disney on Star Wars.

If he's no longer working on it? Fair game.



                            

Carl said:
Azuren said:

And that doesn't make it okay for creators involved in Star Wars to double down and continue making fun of their fandom after Solo bombed.

That would depend on if he's still working with Disney on Star Wars.

If he's no longer working on it? Fair game.

He still makes royalties off of his book, regardless of his employment status. So no.



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Azuren said:

He still makes royalties off of his book, regardless of his employment status. So no.

We're gonna have to disagree on that one.

However, if someone in the Star Wars fanbase is pissy because "women!" or because "not white!", then they're fucking morons and he has every right to call them out for it. I'd very much like to see what he was responding to.



                            

Carl said:
Azuren said:

He still makes royalties off of his book, regardless of his employment status. So no.

We're gonna have to disagree on that one.

However, if someone in the Star Wars fanbase is pissy because "women!" or because "not white!", then they're fucking morons and he has every right to call them out for it. I'd very much like to see what he was responding to.

The problem is that there is a group of people that everytime someone disagrees with them (especially those who didn't like TLJ) they immediately use the Sex or Race card.

And here is the thing: Yes, there are racist and sexist everywhere (and in every fandom) BUT if those people were so numerous in the Star Wars fanbase then TFA, RO and even TLJ wouldn't have made nearly as much money as they did.

So yes, I find it EXTREMELY disrespectful everytime someone close to Lucas Film uses those terms implying that a big portion of the fanbase is like that.



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spurgeonryan said:
Will it even make 400 million? Is that what it needs to break even?

It needs $500M to break even on its production budget. ~$700M when its marketing budget is included. 



chakkra said:

The problem is that there is a group of people that everytime someone disagrees with them (especially those who didn't like TLJ) they immediately use the Sex or Race card.

And here is the thing: Yes, there are racist and sexist everywhere (and in every fandom) BUT if those people were so numerous in the Star Wars fanbase then TFA, RO and even TLJ wouldn't have made nearly as much money as they did.

So yes, I find it EXTREMELY disrespectful everytime someone close to Lucas Film uses those terms implying that a big portion of the fanbase is like that.

He didn't paint a big portion of the fanbase like it at all, he said he fell down a weird rabbit hole of shitty Star Wars fans. And he's not wrong. I see a lot of weird and shitty Star Wars "fans" online.

Anyway, I found the Twitter thread, it wasn't deleted or unprovoked as Azuren thought - 

And again, I really don't think he's wrong.



                            

chakkra said:
Carl said:

We're gonna have to disagree on that one.

However, if someone in the Star Wars fanbase is pissy because "women!" or because "not white!", then they're fucking morons and he has every right to call them out for it. I'd very much like to see what he was responding to.

The problem is that there is a group of people that everytime someone disagrees with them (especially those who didn't like TLJ) they immediately use the Sex or Race card.

And here is the thing: Yes, there are racist and sexist everywhere (and in every fandom) BUT if those people were so numerous in the Star Wars fanbase then TFA, RO and even TLJ wouldn't have made nearly as much money as they did.

So yes, I find it EXTREMELY disrespectful everytime someone close to Lucas Film uses those terms implying that a big portion of the fanbase is like that.

Which goes to show the problem with The Last Jedi is mainly they took Luke in a direction a good chunk of the audience did not enjoy and the film in general was not as "feel good-ey" as The Force Awakens, which people loved or as much fan-pandering as Rogue One had. But both of those have a female lead with diverse casting and people loved both of those films. 

TLJ's problems stem from a script that is too controversial in how it handles Luke mainly and doesn't have a satisfying enough of an ending. 

Solo is probably the least diverse and least political Star Wars film in ages, and it is not resonating with audiences, so those aren't the issues alone. Lucasfilm has to be careful with these spin-off movies, just because you slap Star Wars on something doesn't mean big box office, Star Wars: The Clone Wars also flopped in theaters. 



Carl said:
Azuren said:

He still makes royalties off of his book, regardless of his employment status. So no.

We're gonna have to disagree on that one.

However, if someone in the Star Wars fanbase is pissy because "women!" or because "not white!", then they're fucking morons and he has every right to call them out for it. I'd very much like to see what he was responding to.

If he's actively making money off of a franchise, then it's stupid to make fun of the franchise's fandom. Period.



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Soundwave said:
chakkra said:

The problem is that there is a group of people that everytime someone disagrees with them (especially those who didn't like TLJ) they immediately use the Sex or Race card.

And here is the thing: Yes, there are racist and sexist everywhere (and in every fandom) BUT if those people were so numerous in the Star Wars fanbase then TFA, RO and even TLJ wouldn't have made nearly as much money as they did.

So yes, I find it EXTREMELY disrespectful everytime someone close to Lucas Film uses those terms implying that a big portion of the fanbase is like that.

Which goes to show the problem with The Last Jedi is mainly they took Luke in a direction a good chunk of the audience did not enjoy and the film in general was not as "feel good-ey" as The Force Awakens, which people loved or as much fan-pandering as Rogue One had. But both of those have a female lead with diverse casting and people loved both of those films. 

TLJ's problems stem from a script that is too controversial in how it handles Luke mainly and doesn't have a satisfying enough of an ending. 

Solo is probably the least diverse and least political Star Wars film in ages, and it is not resonating with audiences, so those aren't the issues alone. Lucasfilm has to be careful with these spin-off movies, just because you slap Star Wars on something doesn't mean big box office, Star Wars: The Clone Wars also flopped in theaters. 

I didn't get a good look at the deleted post in question, then. It was the in someone's retweet, and then it was "Deleted by the user". 



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