areason said:
Mate no where in this thread are people pushing the idea that diversity creates a mediocre product. |
Oh no? Scroll up, I've already seen the terms "SJW", "feminist", "leftist" mentioned in this thread
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| Under $700M | 56 | 60.87% | |
| $700M-$800M | 18 | 19.57% | |
| $801M-$900M | 12 | 13.04% | |
| $901M-$1B | 3 | 3.26% | |
| Over $1B | 3 | 3.26% | |
| Total: | 92 | ||
areason said:
Mate no where in this thread are people pushing the idea that diversity creates a mediocre product. |
Oh no? Scroll up, I've already seen the terms "SJW", "feminist", "leftist" mentioned in this thread
PortisheadBiscuit said:
Oh no? Scroll up, I've already seen the terms "SJW", "feminist", "leftist" mentioned in this thread |
And...
areason said:
When you're forcing games/movies and what not to include diversity for the sake of it, you are going end up with a system which does not cater to the demands of the market, but which caters to an agenda. This is going to create an inferior product. Mate the last 10 Cods did not have the ability to play as a black Female Nazi, nor did BF1 have Female British soldiers fighting in the trenches. That is because the developers did not see that as a key feature, the inclusion of that years later is nothing more then pandering. And given the backlash that those two games received, it is clear that the decision was not made based on the demands of the fans, or due to financial reasons. |
Maybe it is the demands of the market, but you have a hard time accepting that so consider it to cater to an agenda to the detriment of the market. Also, your second paragraph makes no sense. Because they didn't do it before, means that they don't want to do it now? Maybe they just didn't think of it beforehand, but now that the thought crossed their minds they want to do it? Or even if they didn't want to do it before, they could have changed their minds.
PortisheadBiscuit said:
Oh no? Scroll up, I've already seen the terms "SJW", "feminist", "leftist" mentioned in this thread |
SJWs feminists and leftists are not pro diversity, they are authoritarian as in they want to shove diversity down the throats of people.
Their is a difference between making a great game with a female lead such as Horizon: Zero Dawn. Then what Marvel did by creating Female versions of super heroes simply for not being labelled as sexist.
One is a product derived by the artistic vision of a team, while the other is a product derived by a fear of negative press and one which innately limits itself.
VGPolyglot said:
Maybe it is the demands of the market, but you have a hard time accepting that so consider it to cater to an agenda to the detriment of the market. Also, your second paragraph makes no sense. Because they didn't do it before, means that they don't want to do it now? Maybe they just didn't think of it beforehand, but now that the thought crossed their minds they want to do it? Or even if they didn't want to do it before, they could have changed their minds. |
Mate instead of crawling around maybes and having groundless positions can you actually give a statement? I see no point in all of this ambiguity, as every time i'm going to bring out proof (such as the backlash the games received) you're going to tell me that i do not have a microscope looking into the brains of the developers.
areason said:
Mate instead of crawling around maybes and having groundless positions can you actually give a statement? I see no point in all of this ambiguity, as every time i'm going to bring out proof (such as the backlash the games received) you're going to tell me that i do not have a microscope looking into the brains of the developers. |
Exactly, you don't have a microscope looking into the brains of the developers, you're just jumping to the conclusion that it was because of "SJW pandering" because that's the narrative that you prefer.
VGPolyglot said:
Exactly, you don't have a microscope looking into the brains of the developers, you're just jumping to the conclusion that it was because of "SJW pandering" because that's the narrative that you prefer. |
I'm not jumping to conclusions, i'm using historical proof and the demands of the market, something which you have ignored.
Star Wars fans are just the whiniest, most childish fanbase of pretty much anything.
Even Star Trek fans can handle a sub par movie without melting down into a total train wreck of whining and crying. There's been plenty of iffy Star Trek movies and Voyager and Enterprise weren't so hot either.
There's been plenty of mediocre Marvel movies too ... Iron Man 3 sucked, so did Thor 2, Iron Man 2 was forgettable too, the first Captain America was average, Age of Ultron was a let down from the first Avengers. You see that kind of behavior from their fanbase? Nope.
Star Wars just has the nerdiest fanbase of the lot, any movie that doesn't go exactly how they want and they will completely lose their shit. The proof is in their behavior full stop which constantly on display.
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Last edited by Bristow9091 - on 26 May 2018areason said:
SJWs feminists and leftists are not pro diversity, they are authoritarian as in they want to shove diversity down the throats of people.
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Palpably contradictory. When an orifice is constricted it takes force to penetrate, meaning, possibly you're closed minded to the idea so it feels like its being shoved down your throat. Doesn't mean it's actual reality...
areason said:
I'm not jumping to conclusions, i'm using historical proof and the demands of the market, something which you have ignored. |
OK then, I can just use FFI-FFIX as not having voice acting for proof that they didn't want it in X and apparently they were being forced into doing it by SJWs who want blind people to be able to have a more enjoyable experience with the game, rather than it being an idea that they liked and decided to implement in accordance with the changing times.