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Now that I have almost completed this game....

These super low reviews are bonkers.

The game is a masterwork of what the genre has been culminating since Heavy Rain. The weaving of plot threads into each other is brilliant. The sheer depth of the choice tree is insane. I cannot wait to take another couple of goes at this game.

Also, I could take a whole side game of Connor and Hank buddy cop scenario.

The dialogue very occasionally suffers from being on the wrong side of blunt and hamfisted in it's message, but majority of it is done beautifully. Some of the reviewers are complaining about how the game makes no strides in making the obvious parallel to race.....well after playing, I can say the title gives it the appropriate amount of correlation for what is not offensive to anybody. It really makes me think some of these reviewers are the awful speed runner type who take no time to explore and take in the nuance. They def didn't do multiple playthroughs which a game like this demands to get the full story.

The game is actually blowing my mind on the very gripping questions it asks the player about their own moral compass.



      

      

      

Greatness Awaits

PSN:Forevercloud (looking for Soul Sacrifice Partners!!!)

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forevercloud3000 said:
Now that I have almost completed this game....

These super low reviews are bonkers.

The game is a masterwork of what the genre has been culminating since Heavy Rain. The weaving of plot threads into each other is brilliant. The sheer depth of the choice tree is insane. I cannot wait to take another couple of goes at this game.

Also, I could take a whole side game of Connor and Hank buddy cop scenario.

The dialogue very occasionally suffers from being on the wrong side of blunt and hamfisted in it's message, but majority of it is done beautifully. Some of the reviewers are complaining about how the game makes no strides in making the obvious parallel to race.....well after playing, I can say the title gives it the appropriate amount of correlation for what is not offensive to anybody. It really makes me think some of these reviewers are the awful speed runner type who take no time to explore and take in the nuance. They def didn't do multiple playthroughs which a game like this demands to get the full story.

The game is actually blowing my mind on the very gripping questions it asks the player about their own moral compass.

I just saw an article from Polygon that had similar criticisms as you've mentioned and it's not even their first time doing that. They also published an article criticizing Far Cry 5 for not bashing conservatives hard enough. It's pretty ridiculous, especially for a game like Detroit since it is a choose-your-adventure type of game. It is up to the player to decide how the protagonists act in the game.



Aura7541 said:
forevercloud3000 said:
Now that I have almost completed this game..the
These super low reviews are bonkers.

The game is a masterwork of what the genre has been culminating since Heavy Rain. The weaving of plot threads into each other is brilliant. The sheer depth of the choice tree is insane. I cannot wait to take another couple of goes at this game.

Also, I could take a whole side game of Connor and Hank buddy cop scenario.

The dialogue very occasionally suffers from being on the wrong side of blunt and hamfisted in it's message, but majority of it is done beautifully. Some of the reviewers are complaining about how the game makes no strides in making the obvious parallel to race.....well after playing, I can say the title gives it the appropriate amount of correlation for what is not offensive to anybody. It really makes me think some of these reviewers are the awful speed runner type who take no time to explore and take in the nuance. They def didn't do multiple playthroughs which a game like this demands to get the full story.

The game is actually blowing my mind on the very gripping questions it asks the player about their own moral compass.

I just saw an article from Polygon that had similar criticisms as you've mentioned and it's not even their first time doing that. They also published an article criticizing Far Cry 5 for not bashing conservatives hard enough. It's pretty ridiculous, especially for a game like Detroit since it is a choose-your-adventure type of game. It is up to the player to decide how the protagonists act in the game.

The game is being pincered by one crowd that thinks the game doesn't go far enough in it's simile. Then another crowd who despise the notion of the topic in a game because they think the topic needs to die.

 

Which is exactly why i think the game has the perfect amount which was always going to be a controversial topic.



      

      

      

Greatness Awaits

PSN:Forevercloud (looking for Soul Sacrifice Partners!!!)

Azzanation said:
Hynad said:

Why don’t you take on CGI-Quality instead?

I think they can both read my post. If I didn't want CGI to read my post I wouldn't have made it that obvious. Thanks for caring though. CGI is welcome to comment back if he wishes. 

DonFerrari said:

Azz as always you like to be wrong right?

If a game is hovering in the 80 range, a 40 review (which is one the broken level) is a more than twice away from the average than the 95, which even if probably much higher than perhaps it should can be understand as someone that really like the game (like if CGI-like was the reviewer) and the genre so he will be distorted higher.

For someone that say have too many great games to play and that his userbase doesn't discuss you enter to many discussion to defend MS and criticize Sony... shall we look at your comments on SoT reviews?

And about the ridiculous claim of everyone needing to have same opinion. For a game that is reasonably well done and doesn't have major flaws averaging 80, the 70-90 range with people liking and disliking the game (without making personal taste get in the way of the objective part) is reasonable. 40 is troll and clickbaiting level.

But I appreciate you infering I'm biased fanboy. You one of the most neutral person on the forums.

 

Way to spin my entire post. I honestly couldn't expect anything different from you so no I am not surprised.

This isn't about being bias, this happens to most games not just PS exclusives. Why do you care so much on these little things? No game is perfect and everyone has the right to there opinion. Its easy to pick out the negative reviews as trolls and easy to keep the extremely positive reviews that aren't trolls. Do you complain about the competitor games copping the same treatment?

Did you know Gran Turismo Sport sits on a 75 meta, did you call out Troll reviews to the 4 Reviewers who gave the game above 90 scores and 1 of those being the only 100 score? That's a bit high above the average correct? With your logic, there troll reviews as well correct? I cant recall you calling them troll reviews though.. interesting.

Like I said I play games no matter the meta score, I suggest you do the same. Also I cannot play my games at work, so ill definitely jumping on some the moment I get home, after I am done replying to these posts at work, oh wait.. you hate Phil for using Tweeter because his the boss and should be making games instead because his the developer and all, I guess because I am the boss at my work I am not allowed to use social media either because I should be making games or something instead of posting on VGC.. 

Bottom line, ignore the scores, just enjoy the games you like, that's what I do.

I'm glad I made up to your expectations. You never fail to come to ours.

Yes I know all games do receive troll reviews, where did I said otherwise? But your construction was hinting at it, and you now it does because every other topic you try to use me as being Sony fanboy as some argument. Again it's funny you doing your passive agressive attacks. If it is small things and I shouldn't care about them, what does that say about you that are criticizing and discussing this with me? No good games to play on PC? I will have to repeat myself so perhaps you read. 40 on a 80 average have much more space to be troll than 95 to be EXTREMELY positive (and you seem to have failed when I explained why those may not really be extremely), still you failed to explain how in VG context a 40 isn't an absurd score for a functional game.

Yes I do know about the unfair meta of GT5, so what? I didn't call this 40 review a troll because of the score, I called it based on its premise of someone that doesn't even like racing and gave the score solely for it being a racer. And for GT you can look other comments I made here, that because of its niche I only regard racing oriented reviews and DF+Arstechnica for the graphical part. All the rest is irrelevant to me since they won't look at what is important to me in a racer. On my personal opinion any score sub 80 for GT is trolling and below 90 is unfair.

Yes you say you play games independent of the score... but not independent of the platform right?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:

 

I'm glad I made up to your expectations. You never fail to come to ours.

Yes I know all games do receive troll reviews, where did I said otherwise? But your construction was hinting at it, and you now it does because every other topic you try to use me as being Sony fanboy as some argument. Again it's funny you doing your passive agressive attacks. If it is small things and I shouldn't care about them, what does that say about you that are criticizing and discussing this with me? No good games to play on PC? I will have to repeat myself so perhaps you read. 40 on a 80 average have much more space to be troll than 95 to be EXTREMELY positive (and you seem to have failed when I explained why those may not really be extremely), still you failed to explain how in VG context a 40 isn't an absurd score for a functional game.

Yes I do know about the unfair meta of GT5, so what? I didn't call this 40 review a troll because of the score, I called it based on its premise of someone that doesn't even like racing and gave the score solely for it being a racer. And for GT you can look other comments I made here, that because of its niche I only regard racing oriented reviews and DF+Arstechnica for the graphical part. All the rest is irrelevant to me since they won't look at what is important to me in a racer. On my personal opinion any score sub 80 for GT is trolling and below 90 is unfair.

Yes you say you play games independent of the score... but not independent of the platform right?

Reviews are personal opinions, if they don't like the game because they don't like the genre than they have the right to give it a low score, clearly indicating that this game isn't for everyone. Which is correct, this game isn't for everyone.

Getting a 100 score for a game sitting on average of 75 is no different to a game getting a 40 on a average of 80 scores. You cannot pick and choose what reviews you accept and cannot. Its rather you balance out the good and the bad reviews or don't complain about it at all. You are clearly nit picking what you only want to read which comes back to my point, who cares?

This has nothing to do with Me, Fanboys, Xbox, PC, Nintendo and even Sony, so stop trying to include them in this.. this is about the review issues YOU have, that's what I am replying to. Don't like them don't read them, why does it matter so much to you?

I clearly stated to you that review scores don't effect my gaming, I just play games regardless of the hate, *hint* You should do the same.



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Azzanation said:
DonFerrari said:

I'm glad I made up to your expectations. You never fail to come to ours.

Yes I know all games do receive troll reviews, where did I said otherwise? But your construction was hinting at it, and you now it does because every other topic you try to use me as being Sony fanboy as some argument. Again it's funny you doing your passive agressive attacks. If it is small things and I shouldn't care about them, what does that say about you that are criticizing and discussing this with me? No good games to play on PC? I will have to repeat myself so perhaps you read. 40 on a 80 average have much more space to be troll than 95 to be EXTREMELY positive (and you seem to have failed when I explained why those may not really be extremely), still you failed to explain how in VG context a 40 isn't an absurd score for a functional game.

Yes I do know about the unfair meta of GT5, so what? I didn't call this 40 review a troll because of the score, I called it based on its premise of someone that doesn't even like racing and gave the score solely for it being a racer. And for GT you can look other comments I made here, that because of its niche I only regard racing oriented reviews and DF+Arstechnica for the graphical part. All the rest is irrelevant to me since they won't look at what is important to me in a racer. On my personal opinion any score sub 80 for GT is trolling and below 90 is unfair.

Yes you say you play games independent of the score... but not independent of the platform right?

Reviews are personal opinions, if they don't like the game because they don't like the genre than they have the right to give it a low score, clearly indicating that this game isn't for everyone. Which is correct, this game isn't for everyone.

Getting a 100 score for a game sitting on average of 75 is no different to a game getting a 40 on a average of 80 scores. You cannot pick and choose what reviews you accept and cannot. Its rather you balance out the good and the bad reviews or don't complain about it at all. You are clearly nit picking what you only want to read which comes back to my point, who cares?

This has nothing to do with Me, Fanboys, Xbox, PC, Nintendo and even Sony, so stop trying to include them in this.. this is about the review issues YOU have, that's what I am replying to. Don't like them don't read them, why does it matter so much to you?

I clearly stated to you that review scores don't effect my gaming, I just play games regardless of the hate, *hint* You should do the same.

We are talking about professionals that should give professional analysis not purely opinion. There are plenty of technical aspects on games to be evaluated besides "i like it". You need a score on a Fifa or GT to know if you like futball or racing game, really?

It seems that it is hard for you to believe that most VGChartian when commenting on metacritic will say they don't consider the score on metacritic as the main factor, but actually read two or three reviewers that he knows have similar taste before making his purchase decision? And why should any simfan consider the opinion of someone that HATEs the genre and gives her score based on that?

Again you ask why does it matter, as if it's irrelevant, but here you are I believe in the third playstation exclusive in a row talking about it... Remind me the playstation exclusives you have played (and of course can prove) in the last 24 months?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

CGI-Quality said:
Azzanation said:

Reviews are personal opinions, if they don't like the game because they don't like the genre than they have the right to give it a low score, clearly indicating that this game isn't for everyone. Which is correct, this game isn't for everyone.

A review should be about the sum of a project's parts, not whether or not you dislike a genre. It means you went in with a preconceived notion and really shouldn't have reviewed it in the first place. They are supposed to be there to inform and help guide to a purchase.

And don't try to tell me that you'd be okay with some of your favorite games being bashed simply because someone doesn't like their genre. I call nonsense on that, given what I've seen of you over time. And really, there's nothing wrong with that, either. You should want games reviewed based on what they are, not what the reviewer would have preferred. Take points away for a broken mess, a bad looking production, a story that doesn't work, game-play mechanics that don't work. Not - "oh, yeah, this is just another 'interactive movie', or ' WWII shooter', or '2D Mario'. No way would I give it a good score". 

That is the reason I wouldn't review Halo, CoD and the like. I know Halo is a fantastic game, that my review (and score) wouldn't give justice because I almost hate the genre. So I limit to say I don't like the game but recognize it's highly regarded.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

All reviewers should be forced to post their gamerscores, trophies, and steam achievements. That way people can look, see how many games a reviewer has played, and then laugh, at the freelance writer giving a score of 4/10 (Because he has almost no achievements and doesn't actually play videogames for fun.)



Sounds fairly good. Obviously it's not great, but considering that stuff like this never seems to end up getting great reviews, this is pretty good.



CGI-Quality said:
Zkuq said:
Sounds fairly good. Obviously it's not great, but considering that stuff like this never seems to end up getting great reviews, this is pretty good.

Detroit, to me, is as good as it gets. It hits all of the right notes and even ones I didn't expect. I'll never let a number dictate what's 'great' and what isn't. GTA IV sits at an extremely high Metascore, yet, I didn't find it great.

The only obvious thing is that some will like it and others won't.

Then why is a 4/10 such a big issue for you? If you acknowledge that a 98 for GTAIV is something that you diverge from, wouldn't that mean that disparities in opinion can diverge from the average score?