Errorist76 said:
RuiOrey said: You know what? Americans are too split up. You shouldn't. You weaken yourselves and your enemies take advantage of that of that division. You think there is one absolute right party? Both of your main sides have good and bad reasons. And you probably have third options but you have too much dominance of the main binary choices on politics. Don't be binary on your thought. They are both parties that seek power to the hands of some not good and other better people. SJW, Feminism, Black Lives Matters, White Man Aversion, Politically Correctness, Gun Rights, Iran, deplorables, Comey, China bla bla. All those issues need a honest, respectful and truthful debate between all sides. So you get a balance. You need to talk between yourselves. And more with your supposed enemies. And not just make fun of them. Or moralize them. That does not seem to happen. There is public shaming and ridicularizing on both sides. There are internet american videos of feminist snowflakes and there are internet american videos of anti-feminist snowflakes. I like you have marketing words for everything like triggering, triple down, etc. On your politics debate. It is showbusiness working. Look to your side and start building points of consensus and don't just tell that the other side is delusional. That is not true and will not move you forward, will leave you halted. Nobody is 100% right and nobody is 100% wrong. And there are reasonable and correct arguments on both sides. Being 100% conservative or being 100% liberal is not the way to go. Probably there are good points on both sides. And bad points. That should be your discussions. Pointing the bad and the goods on BOTH sides, not just ONE side. That I think is your mistake. Maybe Im being too arrogant or simplistic but as an outsider that watches the american politics news both on cnn and fox news (not only but as an example of polarization), for me it seems you have two countries in one! This is what I think at least. Maybe Im wrong.. Can you each one of you point bad ideas/postures on the democratic AND the republican side and then do the same thing for the good ideas/postures on both sides? And trying to be impartial while doing that? That is a hard exercise for you to do it seems to me. Cheers to all. |
The moment the Orange Man-Child will finally resign will be the moment the public shaming will end. I assume you’ve all read the news that Trump himself faked his health report last year?
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Man, for me Trump...not gonna comment directly.
My point is other: Trump is a product of your divided and binary America. You just read this forum to see that.
Let me try and give you an example to illustrate my point:
- everyone is discriminated in one way or another.
Some less, some more, some winning in the middle.
Valid points on all sides.
Either be gay, women, white male, atheists,christians, musilims, white males, african americans.
There is not 0% discrimination in each one of this cases.
And every case discrimination is done in a different way.
What happens right now in your debate:
-Republican: white males are discriminated. Fuck black and women. (add propaganda insult: snowflake)
-Democrat: Black and women are discriminated. Fuck white male and christian. (add propaganda insult: deplorable)
Binary division.
You need to get out of this loop that blocks evolution of ideas and society.
Work all in getting the balance.
There are extreme white male, feminist defenders and so on.
But there are valid arguments on both sides and you all know that.
Listen to each other and think what is right in each type of discrimitation. What that cannot happen to women and white male, for example.
Then filter what i whining on BOTH sides - there is whinning on both sides.
And start solving your differences out.
You are not enemies.
We human need to feel we are on the RIGHT SIDE.
Both are right sides. If half of you are on one side and the other half on another, you need to come together in some way to not fall into weakness.
Most of politicians are trash. On most of political parties. Your party is no different.
Listen to other side. Question the other side.
Question your side also.
In my view, America biggest and most dangerous problem is not white privilege or sjwarriors.
Those are just fuel for the fire.
And the fire is the binary division of its people.
Cheers
Last edited by RuiOrey - on 02 May 2018