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1 - "As if they are planning to get rid of the sku all together"
Even if this was true, it doesn't mean what you think it means. It could very well be a Super Slim.
Again, assuming they are indeed trying to get rid of the SKU.

2 - "The PS4 is as hot as ever".
Well, the day where it's not as hot had to come...
"Why decrease expectations of the PS4?"
Again, everything that goes up, will eventually come down; Also, maybe because they know that their SW won't be as strong, where, for instance, Switch's will.

3 - "Yet what the rumors also say is that the sent out Dev Kits are not all that more powerful than current gen specs."
Portables aren't more powerful - or even equal - to the home console.
Why? Because of battery life, for example.
Switch lasts about 3 hours with a game like Zelda. How long do you think a PS4 portable would last on a more capablade HW than the PS4?
Not to mention the price of the thing or even size - to incorporate a larger battery.

"I imagine that the device would be digital exclusive actually."
PSP Go failed because the gaming market wants games on their hands, and it still does.
A digital only portable would be really DOA.
The market just isn't there yet.


You are reading to much into what is (not) happening.



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i think sony should have just revised the current vita like PSP Go, with more internal memory, micro sd, and multiple account, coz there are lot of great games on vita that unfortunately will never get off of that platform



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I'm happy that I'm not the only one to have this theory in mind. Thank you for posting this.

Yes, the writing are on the walls. After having repeatedly said that the portable market wasn't a option, their speech slightly changed some time ago when Nintendo began to rise again. Some Sony exec said that they couldn't ignore the Switch anymore.

If you look at recent JP multi-platform releases, it's clear that portability is still a thing in Japan. AoT2 PS4 accounts for only 40% of total sales, Atelier Lydie&Suelle sold half of copies on Vita/Switch, and if you look at COMG the Vita version of Persona 3&5 Dancing is the top preorder item atm. With Switch being even more successful abroad, they can't let Nintendo eat they margins further.

PS4 Mini (let's call it that) doesn't even need to be cheap, as last year has shown that customers are ready to line-up for a 300€+ product. Sony could set the price high while lowering the Pro, and sell it at a profit without the need of a big shipment objective. Even more feasible if it's a digital-only system. As I've just been writing, the rise in digital sales ratio opens the way to such a handheld. Monster Hunter World sold 700K digital in Japan, so there's increasingly less reluctance to non-physical games. Needless to say that would be hugely beneficial to 3rd parties, strangled by the cost of Switch cartridges.

There are two points I'd want to add to your thesis.

6. Slim stock has been drying up quickly in Japan for the past 3 weeks, while Pro is steady. There's absolutely no reason that Sony wouldn't be able to ship/manufacture the slim. It's just looking like they want to phase it out by E3. Still, there hasn't been reports of Slim stock lowering in the West.

7. Some JP publishers which have been relying on Vita have dropped Vita support way to fast. Compile Heart has Mary Skelter 2 (DRPG) for PS4 only, while the first one was a successful Vita exclusive. They also unveiled Yusha Neptune, a 2D RPG that could run on Vita but is PS4 only as well. NIS also has been forgetting about the Vita quite suddenly. Could those companies know something we don't?

 I really hope we're into something with that.



Trunkin said:
caffeinade said:

Yeah, my solution is stupidly overpowered for what would be demanded from it.
GDDR6 and HBM 2 offer more bandwidth per watt, compared to GDDR5: they will be nice to have in laptops and similar devices.
I doubt Sony would want to include expensive tech like HBM in a portable console, assuming they have a desire to target the masses like Nintendo.

Finding a way to store PS4 games on a portable device will probably be the most challenging problem to overcome.
SSDs are obviously pretty expensive for the capacity they offer, and who would want a hand-held device with a HDD in it.
Then again who would want a portable console with:

  • Active cooling, that requires the device to have an air vent.
  • Roughly three hours battery life (running AAA games).
  • An SoC that launched in 2015.

I'm still not totally clear on the whole active cooling thing with regards to the Switch. I mean, I guess there must be a fan in there, but I never hear in running--not in handheld mode at least, and the only time the device is warm to the touch is after extended sessions in docked mode. Also, trust me, as someone who owned a Zune, an HDD in a portable device is a much bigger inconveniece than an air vent -- or even poor battery life.

I'm also surprised that you honestly believe a handheld PS4 is physically possible(without active cooling?), especially when the current PS4 already sounds like a blowdryer when it's running.

I said a passively cooled PS4 Portable is possible?
News to me.

The Switch is a family device, meaning children.
Children are dirty, gross, and stick things in vents and stuff.
If a child is old enough to play GoW, then they should know better than to shove gunk in a console's air-vent.

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ryuzaki57 said:

PS4 Mini (let's call it that) doesn't even need to be cheap, as last year has shown that customers are ready to line-up for a 300€+ product. Sony could set the price high while lowering the Pro, and sell it at a profit without the need of a big shipment objective. Even more feasible if it's a digital-only system. As I've just been writing, the rise in digital sales ratio opens the way to such a handheld. Monster Hunter World sold 700K digital in Japan, so there's increasingly less reluctance to non-physical games. Needless to say that would be hugely beneficial to 3rd parties, strangled by the cost of Switch cartridges.

That's much too vague. Which price do you expect for a portable PS4 which is accepted by the market AND can be sold with a profit?

Miniturization is costly (lowering TDP, lowering weight below 500 grams, adding a screen, adding enough battery life for a few hours).

 

ryuzaki57 said:

6. Slim stock has been drying up quickly in Japan for the past 3 weeks, while Pro is steady. There's absolutely no reason that Sony wouldn't be able to ship/manufacture the slim. It's just looking like they want to phase it out by E3. Still, there hasn't been reports of Slim stock lowering in the West.

Why should they phase out the entry model when they can use its lower price for advertizing the whole PS4 family?



The thing is, console gaming seems to be on a sharp decline lately. Even if things look just alright here in America, places like Japan have neglected consoles for years now, and Sony needs to think about all markets with their next product.

Sony has a history of playing follow the leader, and if they deem that their next console would fare better if it was like the Switch, then that's what they will do.

It does seem unfair, and I would bet that Nintendo has copyrighted every aspect of the Switch. I'm not knowledgeable about copyrights, but my personal observations have lead me to believe that they are BS, and a company can always find a way around a copyright.



Something in terms of hardware is happening.
It can be a super slim ps4, a ps4 pro slim or yes, a new portable console.
Particularly, a psp 2 that allows to download ps4 games to be played anywhere, would be very welcome, without anything of Switch and hybrid console, only portable.
And to think, if the resolution is 720p to play God of War, Uncharted 4, Horizon out there, would not be bad.
Maybe a retrocompatible portable console that when connected to the ps4 base via cable, would allow you to play from ps1 to ps3 on tv?
Think a Monster Hunter World and Dragon Quest Xl portable in Japan, even at 720p, at the end of the year?

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Need a xperia Z5 tablet, where you can download and play your PS4 games.



Will Physical games already owned by playable on the system? I might double dip if that is the case.



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