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LudicrousSpeed said:
DonFerrari said:

And you see anything wrong with Phil fulfilling his promises and acting more than talking??? Or perhaps you just see console warriors in others while you sit on a very high horse?

As an Xbone owner, exactly what promises has Papa Phil made me that I should be upset about? And as for talking, I’m simply of the opinion that someone can make big decisions and do his job as an executive, AND talk to the media and fans on social media. I mean... he’s not a developer, lol. I’m sure he has plenty of downtime in his daily routine. You wouldn’t enjoy someone at Sony opening up more about the industry and their personal thoughts on it, games they’re enjoying, sharing content, news, hinting at future stuff? What a bizarre stance to take. Not sure what your issue is here.

We have had Shu, Ahmad and some others on Sony talking on several different occasions so we do have they open about what they are doing.

Great that you aren't upset of all the promises of more 1st parties and no exclusivity deals... that he certainly upheld.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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DonFerrari said:
Azzanation said:

You do know that MS just released a 1st party game in Sea of Thieves right? And they also gave Rare creative freedom to make what ever they wanted. The funny side of all these debates between consoles is that if SoTs turned out a masterpiece everyone would be shutting up. I don't buy games based on reviews but damn I wish MS has a critically acclaimed game soon so the community can be quiet. That's all it is and all its about. MS have games and they have plenty of games coming out like State of Decay 2, Crackdown 3 and Ori Will of the Wisp. That sounds like a nice variety of games releasing in 1 year hopefully.

Wait till E3, that's what I am doing.

Yes I do know, you may remember I was in the thread of the metacritic of it.

Rare is a team that is under MS for over a decade, so that isn't any new investment, so I don't know what that have to do with the point anyway.

State of Decay and Crackdown have been announced and re-announced several times... while Ori is a nice continuation for a well received indie game for sure.

We have seem how many E3 with Phil and his promises? Will it always be wait for the next E3?

That is the problem thismeintiel was talking about. Xbox userbase defend Phil and Xbox even on things that are against their best interest, so both don't really improve on it.

What are you comparing it to? What new IP did Sony or Nintendo release this year?

Regardless of reviews you can't tell me there competitors have done anything new right now.

Last time MS brought a timed exclusives everyone got angry at Xbox and Crystal Dynamics.



Looks perfectly right to me.
He's had the job for many years now.
I don't see any improvement over Don Mattrick at the moment.

To me, since the start of this gen, I just see the xbox first party strategy just continuing the focus on game as service, nothing as change except they slashed budgets for games that aren't heavily focused on multiplayer.
And they didn't increase any other budget.

They are doing a good job on the hardware/OS front though.



Azzanation said:

What are you comparing it to? What new IP did Sony or Nintendo release this year?

Regardless of reviews you can't tell me there competitors have done anything new right now

Looking back at the posts I don't see Don Ferrari limiting the discussion to "new ip" at any point. 

Sony and Nintendo have put out critically acclaimed Single Player games, Microsoft has not. That was the discussion.



Azzanation said:
DonFerrari said:

Yes I do know, you may remember I was in the thread of the metacritic of it.

Rare is a team that is under MS for over a decade, so that isn't any new investment, so I don't know what that have to do with the point anyway.

State of Decay and Crackdown have been announced and re-announced several times... while Ori is a nice continuation for a well received indie game for sure.

We have seem how many E3 with Phil and his promises? Will it always be wait for the next E3?

That is the problem thismeintiel was talking about. Xbox userbase defend Phil and Xbox even on things that are against their best interest, so both don't really improve on it.

What are you comparing it to? What new IP did Sony or Nintendo release this year?

Regardless of reviews you can't tell me there competitors have done anything new right now

Have you at least looked at the games released by MS, Nintendo and Sony for the gen and not see any discrepancy? I don't follow Nintendo, but let's see what new IPs have released on PS4 this year and not on X1?

I didn't understand your second paragraph.

Let's list what is scheduled for the year considering noteworth games and also new IP

Spider Man (new IP)
Detroit Become Human (new IP)

Gof of War (totally new take on the IP that is just keeping the avatar)

Days Gone (new IP-pushed to 2019)

Dreams (new IP)

Fist of the North Star (new take on the IP)

The inpatient (new IP for VR)



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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Barkley said:
Azzanation said:

What are you comparing it to? What new IP did Sony or Nintendo release this year?

Regardless of reviews you can't tell me there competitors have done anything new right now

Looking back at the posts I don't see Don Ferrari limiting the discussion to "new ip" at any point. 

Sony and Nintendo have put out critically acclaimed Single Player games, Microsoft has not. That was the discussion.

I didn't limit, but possible he wanted a token victory because SoT launched so we perhaps have to turn a blind on the other years without many exclusives and also lack of new IPs, or to the future where we already have games announced.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Barkley said:
Azzanation said:

What are you comparing it to? What new IP did Sony or Nintendo release this year?

Regardless of reviews you can't tell me there competitors have done anything new right now

Looking back at the posts I don't see Don Ferrari limiting the discussion to "new ip" at any point. 

Sony and Nintendo have put out critically acclaimed Single Player games, Microsoft has not. That was the discussion.

New IP is a sign of bringing new games. 

Getting good reviews is a different story. Seems like everyone is jumping on MS for lack of games yet they just released a brand new IP in 2018.

Seems like everyone turns a blind eye on games if there not reviewed well.

If State of Decay, Crackdown and Ori all get mediocre reviews people will still bitch and complain on the lack of games.



Azzanation said:
Barkley said:

Looking back at the posts I don't see Don Ferrari limiting the discussion to "new ip" at any point. 

Sony and Nintendo have put out critically acclaimed Single Player games, Microsoft has not. That was the discussion.

New IP is a sign of bringing new games. 

Getting good reviews is a different story. Seems like everyone is jumping on MS for lack of games yet they just released a brand new IP in 2018.

Seems like everyone turns a blind eye on games if there not reviewed well.

If State of Decay, Crackdown and Ori all get mediocre reviews people will still bitch and complain on the lack of games.

People jump on MS because releasing 1 or 3 games a year, new IP or not, well reviewed or not.... are a lot lower than the competition, so you tried to narrow a time frame of 3 months, talking only new IPs and ignoring critics to say MS is doing better than the others and people are at fault for being critic... mind if we pick any other random 3 months during the gen to see how many times you would be able to say the same?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Azzanation said:
Barkley said:

Looking back at the posts I don't see Don Ferrari limiting the discussion to "new ip" at any point. 

Sony and Nintendo have put out critically acclaimed Single Player games, Microsoft has not. That was the discussion.

New IP is a sign of bringing new games. 

Getting good reviews is a different story. Seems like everyone is jumping on MS for lack of games yet they just released a brand new IP in 2018.

Seems like everyone turns a blind eye on games if there not reviewed well.

Right, I'm sure you've never discounted any PlayStation game that scored around 68 when having debates about games lineup.

No if a PlayStation game had a metascore of less than 70 you'd say it was a bad game without even playing it.



Barkley said:
Azzanation said:

New IP is a sign of bringing new games. 

Getting good reviews is a different story. Seems like everyone is jumping on MS for lack of games yet they just released a brand new IP in 2018.

Seems like everyone turns a blind eye on games if there not reviewed well.

Right, I'm sure you've never discounted any PlayStation game that scored around 68 when having debates about games lineup.

No if a PlayStation game had a metascore of less than 70 you'd say it was a bad game without even playing it.

What are you talking about? Is this relevant?