Trumpstyle said:
thismeintiel said:
In that article, it stated that early dev kits got out 18-24 months before the PS4 launched. Rumors are that PS5 dev kits got out early this year. If that was in February, then a Nov 2019 launch would be ~21 months. So, nothing in that article disproves a 2019 launch.
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"Of those, two people said they were directly familiar with plans for Sony’s new console. Those two people both told me that the next PlayStation is unlikely to release in 2019"
This is from the article.
https://kotaku.com/sources-the-playstation-5-is-still-a-ways-off-1825152206
Also from reading the article there is no information that devs have devkits either, which Jason should know as he is suppose to have the best inside information of all gaming reporters.
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He also says it's possible that those dev kits are under lock and key, so that only higher upside and certain devs can have access to them, like previous ones. If that is the case, which two other reliable leaks seem to suggest, then Jason must not be talking to some of the highest people on the totem pole. Which he doesn't seem to stress that these people are high enough that they definitely would know if there were some out there. Which also makes me doubt he is talking to someone who knows for sure what Sony has planned.
Either way, I'm still sticking with 2019, with an outside chance of 2020.
Hiku said:
BraLoD said:
XBO problem was not the price, was that the price was inflated by a mandatory bundle with the Kinect which made it pricer even as it was weaker than the PS4.
With the PS5 and XB4 releases both can confortably sit at $500 and if one is $400 it would need to be stronger than the $500 of the other to make it a problem.
I have zero doubt both of them will be $500 as it's the sweet spot to bring more power and keep the other on track. If, for example, MS releases a $400 console and Sony a stronger for $500 I'm pretty sure the Sony one would sell the most, if they are equivalent in power they should sell similarly as PS is a stronger brand, and if Sony releases the $400 and MS the $500 and Sony's the weaker, it would be the same.
Both companies would want to not lose too much money on each console at release while still keeping the other on check, so none will want to have the weaker machine and going for $500 will be the safest bet for both, unless MS is willing to release a $500 machine for $400 to chew on Sony's market share, which I don't think they will do.
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Well there is a risk of your competitor launching for $400 with a slightly more powerful system if you launch for $500.
It's not just hardware that determines the cost, but also how much of a loss the companies are willing to take on console sales. While none ideally want to lose much money on hardware, it's been a tried and true strategy for previous generations. If I recall correctly this was the first console generation where Sony and MS were profitable on their launch systems day 1, but don't quote me on that.
While there are several reasons for why Xbox lost marketshare this generation, and PS3 did last generation, launch price was none the less one significant factor.
Barring that Sony and MS sit down to talk and agree on a mutual launch year and pricepoint, I'd wager they are now both weary of launching at a higher price than their competitor. Among other things.
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Nah, Sony and MS took a loss with their consoles. Sony said it would take two games, I believe, with each PS4 purchase to break even. Though, this probably has been one of the fastest gens where the price to manufacture has dropped to make the HW profitable, as I believe it only took 6 months after launch for Sony to start making a slight profit on the HW. Next gen should be no different. If Sony sells the PS5 for $399, probably cost them ~$450-$460 to make it. If they sell it for $449, it probably cost them ~$500-$510.
And, yea, there will be much more than price to make up for MS. PS is just too big of brand for MS to take on without a big price advantage (like $150-$200) AND power advantage. Even then, PS3 came out on top. Next gen, MS is, at most, going to have a price advantage of $50-$100, with similar power, which won't help them because of how they are ending this gen. No real brand direction and with a 1st party drought. Personally, I think MS is going to go back to trying to be the most powerful, but at a price higher than PS5, even if only slightly. I think we'll see the XB2 be 5%-10% more powerful than the PS5, and cost $50-$100 more. If so, I see this gen repeating, again, with Sony doing 100M+ and MS 40M+.
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