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Forums - Politics Discussion - Can the Rape Culture in the West be Reduced with Guns?

Let me preface this by stating that a rape victim is not at fault for the horrible experience they've gone through.

With that said its a widely accepted belief that we have a rape culture in western countries.

https://info.umkc.edu/womenc/2013/11/01/the-prevalence-of-rape-culture-in-todays-society/

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/womens-blog/2014/feb/14/rape-culture-damage-it-does-everyday-sexism

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/social-experiment-proves-rape-culture-point_us_58093583e4b0f8715789f7e8

 

“Rape Culture is an environment in which rape is prevalent and in which sexual violence against women is normalized and excused in the media and popular culture. "

 

India is a country where this problem is even more pervasive than in areas like america or england

 

https://www.thedailybeast.com/whats-really-behind-indias-rape-crisis

 

"In India a women is reportedly raped every 15 minutes. Multiply that by 24x7, 365 days a year. And keep in mind the majority of rape cases still go unreported."

 

as a result indian women have been pushing for access to guns in order to combat the problem on their own terms since formal solutions have not been having an effect

 

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-25727080

 

"Soon after the Delhi gang rape, large numbers of women in Indian cities began to look for ways to make themselves safer.

The Indian government introduced tougher new laws against rape, deployed more police on the streets and several cities introduced women's helplines.

But many frightened women had little faith in a largely corrupt and inefficient police force. Large numbers enrolled in self-defence classes and began stocking up on pepper spray cans. Some reports suggested there was a rise in the number of women seeking gun licences."

 

"The gun's launch has led Indians to debate whether carrying a gun makes a woman safer. Ram Krishna Chaturvedi, the chief of police for Kanpur and several nearby districts, thinks it does.

"It is definitely a good idea. If you have a licensed weapon, it increases your self-confidence and creates fear in the minds of criminals," she says.

Among those wanting to buy Nirbheek is Pratibha Gupta, a housewife and student in Kanpur. She says it is "too expensive" and the process of acquiring a licence is "cumbersome", but she believes that it will be empowering.

"If the person in front of me knows that I have a gun, he will hesitate to touch me, he will know that since she has a gun, she can use it too. The gun will be my supporter, my friend and my strength.""

 

so what do you think? 

are the women of india pushing for gun ownership focusing on a viable solution in your opinion?

discuss



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Well a better point to start from would be to ask if rape culture in the West actually exists.



AngryLittleAlchemist said:
Well a better point to start from would be to ask if rape culture in the West actually exists.

Well, judging by this definition:

"A society or environment whose prevailing social attitudes have the effect of normalizing or trivializing sexual assault and abuse."

And considering the thread from yesterday, I'd say that yes it does.



Are we talking about India or the west here?



VGPolyglot said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:
Well a better point to start from would be to ask if rape culture in the West actually exists.

Well, judging by this definition:

"A society or environment whose prevailing social attitudes have the effect of normalizing or trivializing sexual assault and abuse."

And considering the thread from yesterday, I'd say that yes it does.

Wouldn't the thread yesterday show that there isn't a rape culture? Since most of the people participating in the thread went against said user?



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I'm just going to see if this topic pisses of leftists or righties more.



No it will make it easier for rapist to threaten their victims. So it would be a counter effective measure. Perhaps legalising pepper spray and tazers will have a better effect. Since you can't kill people with those, but you can momentarily immobilise someone. It's hard to rape when immobilised, but it's kinda a last resort measure.



Please excuse my (probally) poor grammar

AngryLittleAlchemist said:
VGPolyglot said:

Well, judging by this definition:

"A society or environment whose prevailing social attitudes have the effect of normalizing or trivializing sexual assault and abuse."

And considering the thread from yesterday, I'd say that yes it does.

Wouldn't the thread yesterday show that there isn't a rape culture? Since most of the people participating in the thread went against said user?

Well, the question I guess is whether it has to be the dominant belief to be considered part of the culture, but here are some articles discussing the matter:

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/investigations/unfounded-sexual-assault-canada-main/article33891309/

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/features/how-police-still-fail-rape-victims-w434669



VGPolyglot said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:
Well a better point to start from would be to ask if rape culture in the West actually exists.

Well, judging by this definition:

"A society or environment whose prevailing social attitudes have the effect of normalizing or trivializing sexual assault and abuse."

And considering the thread from yesterday, I'd say that yes it does.

 

AngryLittleAlchemist said:
VGPolyglot said:

Well, judging by this definition:

"A society or environment whose prevailing social attitudes have the effect of normalizing or trivializing sexual assault and abuse."

And considering the thread from yesterday, I'd say that yes it does.

Wouldn't the thread yesterday show that there isn't a rape culture? Since most of the people participating in the thread went against said user?

Da fuck happened yesterday? Link please? I can't seem to find it.



- "If you have the heart of a true winner, you can always get more pissed off than some other asshole."

COKTOE said:
VGPolyglot said:

Well, judging by this definition:

"A society or environment whose prevailing social attitudes have the effect of normalizing or trivializing sexual assault and abuse."

And considering the thread from yesterday, I'd say that yes it does.

 

AngryLittleAlchemist said:

Wouldn't the thread yesterday show that there isn't a rape culture? Since most of the people participating in the thread went against said user?

Da fuck happened yesterday? Link please? I can't seem to find it.

I'd say start right about here: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=235589&page=11