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Forums - Politics Discussion - Where do you stand in the Kuril Islands dispute?

If I know my facts correctly, then Japan had to give up claims on the islands - so obviously, as Russia is currently administrating the islands and has been for basically a lifetime, I'm on Russia's side on that issue.

Also to the person saying that Japan should invade - come on. Japan isn't nearly the military force it was during WW2, its army is a quarter of the size of the Russian army. Plus the fact that the invasion wouldn't be looked at favourably by the UN, which could lead to sanctions. Why would you risk the economy for a few small islands?



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CaptainExplosion said:
mutantsushi said:

Interesting. But do you stand with the Japan which acknowledged renouncing the territory in SF Peace Treaty? Which negotiated final peace treaty with Soviets in exchange for smaller island & rocks only? Or the Japan which pretends that never happened? What was your position on the issue before President Putin was first elected, when the historical and legal facts were the same as they are now? Or do you not really care about legal/diplomatic details, but merely maintain personal emnity for somebody you've only seen thru mass media? (if you had personal dealing with Vladimir Putin, before or after his Presidency, that obviously is valid re: your personal opinion of him)

Putin is still a murderer and a fascist, while Japan did a great job of turning around after they lost World War II. Putin on the other hand made Russia a horrible place to live again, and still hasn't answered for poisoning innocent people or letting airline passengers die.

So I take it you don't actually care about the details of the subject, i.e. the topic of the thead. Just curious, why you even clicked on the thread, since it doesn't overtly indicate it even involves Russia, or mention Vladimir Putin by name?



VGPolyglot said:
CaptainExplosion said:

Putin is still a murderer and a fascist, while Japan did a great job of turning around after they lost World War II. Putin on the other hand made Russia a horrible place to live again, and still hasn't answered for poisoning innocent people or letting airline passengers die.

Well, practically speaking, how are Japan going to get the islands back? Through force?

If necessary, as it's time more of us stood up to Putin's aggression.

mutantsushi said:
CaptainExplosion said:

Putin is still a murderer and a fascist, while Japan did a great job of turning around after they lost World War II. Putin on the other hand made Russia a horrible place to live again, and still hasn't answered for poisoning innocent people or letting airline passengers die.

So I take it you don't actually care about the details of the subject, i.e. the topic of the thead. Just curious, why you even clicked on the thread, since it doesn't overtly indicate it even involves Russia, or mention Vladimir Putin by name?

To denounce the cock sucker of course. Whether it be North Africa, Japan, or the United States 2016 elections, Putin keeps sticking his communist nose where it doesn't belong. It's time he pays for his crimes severely, even if it means he dies.

 

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CaptainExplosion said:
VGPolyglot said:

Well, practically speaking, how are Japan going to get the islands back? Through force?

If necessary, as it's time more of us stood up to Putin's aggression.

You're much more aggressive than Putin is though, so maybe we should stand up to you first instead.



CaptainExplosion said:
VGPolyglot said:

Well, practically speaking, how are Japan going to get the islands back? Through force?

If necessary, as it's time more of us stood up to Putin's aggression.

If necessary? Well taking the islands back isn't necessary, as I said Japan hasn't had control of them for over 70 years.



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Ka-pi96 said:
CaptainExplosion said:

If necessary, as it's time more of us stood up to Putin's aggression.

You're much more aggressive than Putin is though, so maybe we should stand up to you first instead.

I'm not the one who condemns Russian homosexuals to die every day with no repercussions, or cover up terrorism investigations in the Ukraine, or grab every random small country possible to rebuild the USSR.

VGPolyglot said:
CaptainExplosion said:

If necessary, as it's time more of us stood up to Putin's aggression.

If necessary? Well taking the islands back isn't necessary, as I said Japan hasn't had control of them for over 70 years.

They're close enough that they should be part of Japan. Putin would obviously use them to test weapons of mass destruction, even if it means his own people getting caught in the crossfire because they didn't evacuate in time. I'm saying it again; Putin. Is. A. Terrorist.



CaptainExplosion said:

VGPolyglot said:

If necessary? Well taking the islands back isn't necessary, as I said Japan hasn't had control of them for over 70 years.

They're close enough that they should be part of Japan. Putin would obviously use them to test weapons of mass destruction, even if it means his own people getting caught in the crossfire because they didn't evacuate in time. I'm saying it again; Putin. Is. A. Terrorist.

You can say the exact same thing about Crimea though? "It's close enough that it should be part of Russia." And when has Putin/Russia ever used nukes on civilians? Never.



VGPolyglot said:
CaptainExplosion said:

If necessary, as it's time more of us stood up to Putin's aggression.

If necessary? Well taking the islands back isn't necessary, as I said Japan hasn't had control of them for over 70 years.

So what? If a squatter forcefully takes my home am I not allowed to take it back because it's 70 years later? It's still my home.



CaptainExplosion said:
VGPolyglot said:

Well, practically speaking, how are Japan going to get the islands back? Through force?

If necessary, as it's time more of us stood up to Putin's aggression.

Intriguing, but I believe the question was HOW, not it's necessity or political beauty. The dispute also has nothing to do with "Putin's aggression" or any hypothetical standing up to that, it is result of WWII and Soviet Union's part in Allies defeat of the fascist Axis. I don't believe Vladimir Putin was even alive at the time, as somebody said, the status quo has been in effect for over 3 generations.

CaptainExplosion said: 
mutantsushi said: 

So I take it you don't actually care about the details of the subject, i.e. the topic of the thead. Just curious, why you even clicked on the thread, since it doesn't overtly indicate it even involves Russia, or mention Vladimir Putin by name?

To denounce the cock sucker of course. Whether it be North Africa, Japan, or the United States 2016 elections, Putin keeps sticking his communist nose where it doesn't belong. It's time he pays for his crimes severely, even if it means he dies.

Interesting. Are homophobic slurs VGChartz approved now? Still, you don't answer my question why you associated this thead with Vladimir Putin in the first place? Perhaps you were aware of subject (which precedes Putin's first election) and thus knew it involved Russia, and from there made association with Vladimir Putin? (I take it you haven't had personal relations with him that justify personal animosity) 



Shikotan and Habomai should definitely be Japanese as agreed upon. Russia just uses it as a buffer for negotiations. Similar situation with Cyprus, all of Cyprus should definitely be theirs and not Turkish. It doesn't matter how many people they get to move there so its "more Turkish" when it should be Cyprus.