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dark_gh0st_b0y on 30 March 2018
Wiibaron said:
Just imagine how the world would be if 1/2 the people didn't believe that their actions while alive on Earth determine your punishment after you die. Being afraid of eternal punishment helps keep people 'in line' as far as treating others. Not a believer myself, but I am sure glad most do.

one of the very few I could agree with

why do people refer to religion as a way to obtain power...  can't you see around you? the most efficient way to obtain power is by obtaining money, it's always been that way, nothing to do with religion

the answer to the OP is very simple in my opinion, money

the very point of religion is that wealth is spiritual, not material



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VGPolyglot on 30 March 2018
Ka-pi96 said:
dark_gh0st_b0y said:

one of the very few I could agree with

why do people refer to religion as a way to obtain power...  can't you see around you? the most efficient way to obtain power is by obtaining money, it's always been that way, nothing to do with religion

the answer to the OP is very simple in my opinion, money

the very point of religion is that wealth is spiritual, not material

Religion has been around longer than money though, so clearly that's not the case.

Maybe currency, but I assume resources that were directly traded precede religion.



Aeolus451 on 30 March 2018

Same shit different day. We would have the same issues. People like to believe in something. A cause or ideology. It can be far worse than any religion.



super_etecoon on 30 March 2018

Ancient Egyyptian Cave Apes? 6000 years ago? Really Spurge? Can you elaborate on this phrase please?



o_O.Q on 30 March 2018

religion which to me is faith in something beyond empirical evidence is a fundamental aspect of being a human, so to me your proposition is not possible
ironically i've been noticing that many of the people who claim to be staunchly against religion happen to have some of the most delusional beliefs i have ever seen and the irony of it never ceases to amaze me



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Azuren on 30 March 2018
VGPolyglot said:
Ka-pi96 said:

Yeah but that's why religion exists in the first place. Because instead of saying they didn't know somebody made up a load of bullshit.

So, it's virtually impossible to imagine a world without it then.

Well, yes. Keep in mind religion is like a primordial science. It was the desire to explain. If man had never sought to explain with myth, he would have never thought to explain with fact.



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super_etecoon on 30 March 2018
o_O.Q said:
religion which to me is faith in something beyond empirical evidence is a fundamental aspect of being a human, so to me your proposition is not possible
ironically i've been noticing that many of the people who claim to be staunchly against religion happen to have some of the most delusional beliefs i have ever seen and the irony of it never ceases to amaze me

For instance?



caffeinade on 30 March 2018

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Until their fingers bleed.



o_O.Q on 30 March 2018
super_etecoon said:
o_O.Q said:
religion which to me is faith in something beyond empirical evidence is a fundamental aspect of being a human, so to me your proposition is not possible
ironically i've been noticing that many of the people who claim to be staunchly against religion happen to have some of the most delusional beliefs i have ever seen and the irony of it never ceases to amaze me

For instance?

 

anarcho communists that can't rationally explain how they can make all people equal without imposing rules through government never mind them equating communism and anarchism which are opposites

feminists that think equity can be achieved once they place enough restrictions on men, in the process perpetuating the very phenomena they claim to be fighting - sexism

marxists who go on and on about how abject poverty is increasing because the rich are taking advantage of everyone else when statistics clearly show that poverty is being eradicated(because of capitalism)

 

and the list goes on and on and on... these groups are generally atheistic and yet their core beliefs are pretty much religious and just as divorced from reality as the doctrines found in belief systems like christianity

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Aeolus451 on 30 March 2018
o_O.Q said:
super_etecoon said:

For instance?

 

anarcho communists that can't rationally explain how they can make all people equal without imposing rules through government never mind them equating communism and anarchism which are opposites

feminists that think equity can be achieved once they place enough restrictions on men, in the process perpetuating the very phenomena they claim to be fighting - sexism

marxists who go on and on about how abject poverty is increasing because the rich are taking advantage of everyone else when statistics clearly show that poverty is being eradicated(because of capitalism)

 

and the list goes on and on and on... these groups are generally atheistic and yet their core beliefs are pretty much religious and just as divorced from reality as the doctrines found in belief systems like christianity

It's all about telling someone what they want to hear and whatever that conveniently absolves them from their personal responsibility for their failures.