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That depends on the economy of the mind and how you interpret the process of human development.

For example, the same mind that can conceive Ra can come to understand that Ra does not exist. Remove the capacity of constructing gods and you may lose abstract functions such as pattern recognition in seasons to develop agriculture. So, we'd likely be extinct or still be small bands of hunter gatherers.

In the same respect assuming humans would still create large scale civilizations if power structures would be required to fill that void. We know in our current development that nationalism became the form of tribalism that shaped the modern era. We could simply been a species that worshiped leaders or parties or councils.

If you fundamentally can change our nature to keep our higher functions while stripping fear and superstition then our species would have had accelerated development of technology and likely have hit milestones much sooner and faster. We'd have Star Fleet around three thousand years ago and have colonies across the stars. By now we'd be discussing the possibilities of going to Andromeda and becoming a multi galaxy class species.



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CaptainExplosion said:
Shaqazooloo0 said:
It would be basically the same. Mankind would've found another means to easily gain power and wealth to control the masses.

Religion was just fine, till mankind touched it.

It didn't exist before mankind touched it though



Ka-pi96 said:
CaptainExplosion said:

Religion was just fine, till mankind touched it.

It didn't exist before mankind touched it though

Or did it?

Nymeria said:
That depends on the economy of the mind and how you interpret the process of human development.

For example, the same mind that can conceive Ra can come to understand that Ra does not exist. Remove the capacity of constructing gods and you may lose abstract functions such as pattern recognition in seasons to develop agriculture. So, we'd likely be extinct or still be small bands of hunter gatherers.

In the same respect assuming humans would still create large scale civilizations if power structures would be required to fill that void. We know in our current development that nationalism became the form of tribalism that shaped the modern era. We could simply been a species that worshiped leaders or parties or councils.

If you fundamentally can change our nature to keep our higher functions while stripping fear and superstition then our species would have had accelerated development of technology and likely have hit milestones much sooner and faster. We'd have Star Fleet around three thousand years ago and have colonies across the stars. By now we'd be discussing the possibilities of going to Andromeda and becoming a multi galaxy class species.

Never thought of it that way.



Religion would have been replaced by laws. On the other hand religion and laws usually go hand in hand. The world would not change all that much, perhaps we would have had a genocide less. We would still kill eachother without religion but for better or at least more logical reasons.



Please excuse my (probally) poor grammar

Qwark said:
Not all that much, but we would kill each other for better or at least more logical reasons.

Like if somebody tried to hurt my mom? I'd kill anybody who tried that. *rifle pointed between your eyes* Don't tempt me, Quark.



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To take away religion would be to take away hierarchy. The belief that one thing is better than another is a core human component that cant really be taken away without leaving you with a being without free will. People desire power and influence, they want their ideas to be the one that is accepted. Religion as whole is a construct to validate someones power over another. A way to establish a way of saying "im right" beyond he said she said. @Nymeria said it very well. You would have to literally strip pieces of humanity away, but it would create a near perfect species.



Muda Muda Muda Muda Muda Muda!!!!


Just imagine how the world would be if 1/2 the people didn't believe that their actions while alive on Earth determine your punishment after you die. Being afraid of eternal punishment helps keep people 'in line' as far as treating others. Not a believer myself, but I am sure glad most do.



CaptainExplosion said:
Qwark said:
Not all that much, but we would kill each other for better or at least more logical reasons.

Like if somebody tried to hurt my mom? I'd kill anybody who tried that. *rifle pointed between your eyes* Don't tempt me, Quark.

Yeah or for fresh water or other natural recourses. 

*Backs away slowly out of captainexplosion is sight while hoping that he won't shoot me. 



Please excuse my (probally) poor grammar

We dumbass humans would have found something don't you worry about that.



Religion wow, it goes way deeper than just being a medium of influence, it has been deeply embedded in the social and moral values of human life. I mean our laws are pretty much derived from religious values, even if you don't believe in it, what's right and wrong are mostly dictated by religion.

Taking away religion would also make people a lot more hopeless and depressed since it'd encourage existential thinking and leading people to not really care about human life, be selfish and not be guilty about it.

I don't really know, it's interesting to think about, but our world would definitely have some sort of systematic discrimination and really not care for human life, since religion has taught us that all people are equal and it did also give people hope in life i.e. to be morally good to go to heaven.

We'd definitely have a more dictator oriented world since the removal of religion immediately takes away morals and thus freedom, it'd either be a dictatorship or anarchy, who knows? We won't.