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flashfire926 on 24 March 2018
Errorist76 said:
flashfire926 said:

Developer/publishers get a bigger cut when you buy digital. I want more of my money to go to them rather than GameStop.

Piblishers? Ok...Developers? I strongly doubt it makes a difference. Of course the publisher makes more money if he sells the same game for the same price without investing in distribution, packaging, shipping, retailer shares etc.

Publishers will have more money to provide their studio for game development. Provided the publisher is not someone like activision, of course.



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jason1637 on 24 March 2018
Errorist76 said:
jason1637 said:

Can play a game at midnight when it comes out. Also with a mostly digital library I can play a game while another is downloading while if I was only physical I'd have to wait for that game to finish downloading to play my other physical games. Also with digital I can share games with my family and we can play the same game the same time with 1 digital purchase.

I get the family sharing aspect. I mostly buy my PS4 games digital for the same reason. I still don’t understand why you’d care about how other people buy it. It doesn’t make any difference to you, does it?

It doesn't make a difference to me but I still want digital to continue to do better than physical since I like digital better.



flashfire926 on 24 March 2018
Errorist76 said:
jason1637 said:

Can play a game at midnight when it comes out. Also with a mostly digital library I can play a game while another is downloading while if I was only physical I'd have to wait for that game to finish downloading to play my other physical games. Also with digital I can share games with my family and we can play the same game the same time with 1 digital purchase.

I get the family sharing aspect. I mostly buy my PS4 games digital for the same reason. I still don’t understand why you’d care about how other people buy it. It doesn’t make any difference to you, does it?

I want GameStop, after seeing all the shit they pulled off on their employees, to die out.

Also, the only reason digital doesn't have more discounts and cheaper prices than physical is because the console makers/publisher don't want to piss off the physical stores, cause they might stop stocking your product, delivering a huge blow to your sales (a lot of European retailers stopped stocking X1 because of this)

Once the bubble pops, physical starts becoming obsolete, we will have steam-like prices in digital.



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Chazore on 24 March 2018
loy310 said:
Pretty much a PS franchise

Considering that PC has all 3 titles, while Xbox has 2 and Sony has one, it hardly makes the entire franchise Sony based. Not by a long shot. 



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JRPGfan on 24 March 2018
AngryLittleAlchemist said:
Wow, so on average per year the PC version accounts for 41.3% of sales, and the PS4 version accounts for 41.6% of sales. So much for PC just being free to play microtransaction games.

I think the overall total % matters more.

This game has clearly sold like this PS4 > PC > XB1.
PS4 user base is the biggest for this game.

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haxxiy on 24 March 2018
AngryLittleAlchemist said:
flashfire926 said:

But except it doesnt work like that. 

Lets take a look at this made up scenario. Witcher 3 had 90% of its lifetime sales in 2015, with the remaining 10% in 2016.

Lets say the split was 75% ps4 and 25% pc in 2015, while in 2016 was 10% ps4 and 90% pc. The way you would calculate it,  PC would have 57.5% of sales, and PS4 would have 42.5%. 

But that would be wrong. In reality, PS4 would have 68.5% of sales, and PC would have 31.5%. Since the gap in 2015 in terms of units sold was way in favor of PS4, and the 2016 gap between PC and PS4 is much smaller in terms of units sold, because it had very little sales in 2016 when compared to 2015. When the amounts for each year are different, just adding up the percentages and dividing doesnt work because the amounts each year arent equal.

In this scenario, percentage doesnt tell the whole story, since the gap in units sold between ps4 and pc is much smaller in 2016, even though the percentages are heavily in favor of PC, because 2016 only counted for a small fraction.

Did you miss the part in my comment where I literally already said this? 

"Averaging DOES work for the yearly ratio of sales, it just doesn't work for how many sales there are."

What do you think I meant by that honey? I already said it so that you wouldn't have to write a long reply restating what I've already said. 

What would be the point to even mention such useless statistics, anyway? It's like those people who took the number of counties in the US elections to give Romney or McCain some sort of victory by numbers over Obama.

Anyway, you probably didn't even realize at first that you screwed up your math, admit it, you were just trying to save face on the second post.

Same with the jolly fellow, by the way, who somehow read it as a victory for digital sales, when the graphs themselves made it very obvious that the first year was much bigger than the others.



 

 

 

 

 

AngryLittleAlchemist on 24 March 2018
JRPGfan said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:
Wow, so on average per year the PC version accounts for 41.3% of sales, and the PS4 version accounts for 41.6% of sales. So much for PC just being free to play microtransaction games.

I think the overall total % matters more.

This game has clearly sold like this PS4 > PC > XB1.
PS4 user base is the biggest for this game by a good margin.

Yeah that's true, and I didn't meant to say otherwise. The comment was just to show that the game has really good sales on PC. Although, including GOG, I think the margin would probably be a little smaller than it seems. But still a big margin. 

haxxiy said:

What would be the point to even mention such useless statistics, anyway? It's like those people who took the number of counties in the US elections to give Romney or McCain some sort of victory by numbers over Obama.

Anyway, you probably didn't even realize at first that you screwed up your math, admit it, you were just trying to save face on the second post.

Same with the jolly fellow, by the way, who somehow read it as a victory for digital sales, when the graphs themselves made it very obvious that the first year was much bigger than the others.

My math wasn't wrong. Flashfire's response was pretty much "Your average calculations were wrong because they aren't an accurate way of depicting X variable", when in actuality I wasn't even talking about the game's total sales, but rather how much of the game's sales are from one platform per year. Again, the math isn't wrong, Flashfire just kept using the word wrong because we were talking about totally different things. He basically just said I was wrong because he thought I was using year on year statistics as a sign of total sales, which I wasn't.

You are trying REALLY hard to make this seem like my comment  is some troll post that's wrong, when it isn't. I just explained to Flash that I wasn't even talking about total sales. I cleared it up so he stopped replying. It's that simple. You really don't have to keep pushing it. 

Also I would say that the amount of sales one platform takes up per year is pretty important. Not as important as total sales, but I never made that claim. 



JRPGfan on 24 March 2018

Even accounting for differnt install base sizes, it seems this title is more popular on PS4's than XB1's.
Is that because its more popular in europe (witcher 3)? or just PS4 users enjoy RPGs more than XB1 users?



jason1637 on 24 March 2018
JRPGfan said:

Even accounting for differnt install base sizes, it seems this title is more popular on PS4's than XB1's.
Is that because its more popular in europe (witcher 3)? or just PS4 users enjoy RPGs more than XB1 users?

Install base and most RPGs that isn't made by Bethesda do way better on Playstation. 



flashfire926 on 24 March 2018

 

JRPGfan said:

Even accounting for differnt install base sizes, it seems this title is more popular on PS4's than XB1's.
Is that because its more popular in europe (witcher 3)? or just PS4 users enjoy RPGs more than XB1 users?

It's the first one for sure. XB1 doesn't really exist in mainland Europe.



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