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Okay, it didn't suck. It was awesome. Now, let's talk about why it sucked.

 

Spoilers ahoy!

 

-"King T'Challa": So, in Civil War, T'Chakka dies and his son becomes the king. He has the powers of the Black Panther. In the movie, we find out here's not the king? They take away his powers. Why did he have them in the first place? His dad was still alive so his dad should have still been the Black Panther. Right?

 

-The Ritual: Okay. So the son of the King gets to be King...unless somebody can beat him up. That means the best fighter can be king because we all know being the best fighter automatically makes you a diplomat, wise, etc. But what are the rules?

 

If T'Challa wins his first challenge, can somebody else challenge? Can he win five fights in a day? If he loses a fight and injures his opponent, can somebody else challenge!?! Can we have a full WWE Pay Per View called "Waterfall Rumble"?

 

-Wakanda Tech P1: If Wakanda is so advanced, why are they fighting with spears and weaponized rhinos? Wait. Weaponized rhinos? WEAPONIZED RHINOS!?? In that final battle, a sniper with a good vantage point could have killed everybody. They thought the best was to win a battle was to bludgeon each other to death and trample each other with rhinos. And if those weapons would have made it out of Wakanda, the military would have just nuked the hell out of Africa. Jesus, Killmonger. You know better than this!

 

-Wakanda Tech P2: Holy shit. Vibranium does it all. It's a metal that doesn't break and absorbs impact. You put it in your food. You rub it on your skin. You buy stuff with it. If your back aches, you dip your body in it. The shit is magical (translation: overpowered!)! But, at the same time, the same ship they flew around in in 1992 was the same ship the had in 2018. The same 3D phone tech. Couldn't they evolve a little?

 

-Wakanda Riches: I could get off on a whole other rant about the Wakandan economic system. Don't get me started. 

 

-We don't know you, Killmonger!: (Pretend I wrote a whole paragraph on how they just assumed Killmonger was telling the truth and let him challenge their king, even when the challenge was over). Not even a blood test? C'mon! Anybody from Wakanda could have a lip tattoo!

 

-Papa Killmonger, a traitor?: What the hell. He came from the richest country in the world. Why did he betray them? What could he gain? And why was he livng in the ghetto anyway? What country would send their King's brother to do spy mission and send a spy to spy on the spy? They should have people trained for this kind of job!

 

I could go on but I won't. I've done enough. I just like messing with people when they like something. I'm an asshole.



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You want more, you say? Okay.

-The heart shaped herb: In the comics, only a member of the Royal family can eat the herb. The movie doesn't say this and if it's not in the movie, it doesn't exist. So why didn't all of the sexy bald women have super powers when they went to confront Klaue (Klaw)?

-Super speed!: In Civil War, Black Panther ran down a goddam car or motorcycle or something. Why didn't he demonstrate his super speed to catch the escaping Klaue on either occasion? Did he forget he had it?

-Roughing it: Again, as advanced as Wakanda is, M'Baku (The Man Ape) chooses to live in the icy mountains and wear a loincloth? He doesn't like cable TV? Xbox?

-Magical Snow: Black Panther got thrown off of a waterfall and left for dead. M'Baku's plan to save him was to bury him in snow? I don't buy it. That guy was going to eat the Black Panther. Vegetarian, my ass! This medical miracle is right up there with the paralysis healing rope from The Dark Knight Rises.

- What's in that herb, anyway?: You drink it and you get to go to heaven or something. Talk to the dead, I guess. Whatever religion Wakanda has should be the dominant religion. Just bring that stuff to the United States and let Mike Pence have a sip. God is real and there's life after death!



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d21lewis said:

[1]-"King T'Challa": So, in Civil War, T'Chakka dies and his son becomes the king. He has the powers of the Black Panther. In the movie, we find out here's not the king? They take away his powers. Why did he have them in the first place? His dad was still alive so his dad should have still been the Black Panther. Right?

 

[2]-The Ritual: Okay. So the son of the King gets to be King...unless somebody can beat him up. That means the best fighter can be king because we all know being the best fighter automatically makes you a diplomat, wise, etc. But what are the rules?

 

If T'Challa wins his first challenge, can somebody else challenge? Can he win five fights in a day? If he loses a fight and injures his opponent, can somebody else challenge!?! Can we have a full WWE Pay Per View called "Waterfall Rumble"?

 

[3]-Wakanda Tech P1: If Wakanda is so advanced, why are they fighting with spears and weaponized rhinos? Wait. Weaponized rhinos? WEAPONIZED RHINOS!?? In that final battle, a sniper with a good vantage point could have killed everybody. They thought the best was to win a battle was to bludgeon each other to death and trample each other with rhinos. And if those weapons would have made it out of Wakanda, the military would have just nuked the hell out of Africa. Jesus, Killmonger. You know better than this!

 

-Wakanda Tech P2: Holy shit. Vibranium does it all. It's a metal that doesn't break and absorbs impact. You put it in your food. You rub it on your skin. You buy stuff with it. If your back aches, you dip your body in it. The shit is magical (translation: overpowered!)! But, at the same time, the same ship they flew around in in 1992 was the same ship the had in 2018. The same 3D phone tech. Couldn't they evolve a little?

 

[4]-Wakanda Riches: I could get off on a whole other rant about the Wakandan economic system. Don't get me started. 

 

[5]-We don't know you, Killmonger!: (Pretend I wrote a whole paragraph on how they just assumed Killmonger was telling the truth and let him challenge their king, even when the challenge was over). Not even a blood test? C'mon! Anybody from Wakanda could have a lip tattoo!

 

[6]-Papa Killmonger, a traitor?: What the hell. He came from the richest country in the world. Why did he betray them? What could he gain? And why was he livng in the ghetto anyway? What country would send their King's brother to do spy mission and send a spy to spy on the spy? They should have people trained for this kind of job!

 

I could go on but I won't. I've done enough. I just like messing with people when they like something. I'm an asshole.

1 - Err... You should watch it again. There is this mystical side of Wakanda

2- This are the rules of Wakanda. It doesn't matter if the winner is John Cena or Ghandi, will be the King.

3- Trump can just nuke North Korea right now too. What's your point here? Wakanders are proud and very traditional people. They fight like that. That's it. And the rhinos are super cool :p

4- Please do

5- Kinda agree here

6- See 5

 

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Meh, I liked it, but I definitely see your point. Problem with superhero movies is if you try to delve too deep into facts and plot holes, you’ll only find disappointment. At least the movie was well acted, visually pleasing, and had a decent story.



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the thing about killmonger's father is that he didn't betray wakanda for personal gain, he did it to spark a revolution after living in the ghetto and seeing what was happening to black people while wakanda was doing nothing.

A lot of these seem like nitpicks that could apply to most other superhero movies, but yeah, I agree with some (especially with the whole vibranium is overpowered stuff)



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1. I believe he was being groomed to be the Panther. He was there to protect his father.

2. There was a chance for anyone to step up to challenge him. Only 1 did. It's probably just accepted who the King is supposed to be. The ritual is just a crowning party.

3. I thought they just made shit up with all the vibranium powers. Totally overpowered and makes him at least the 3rd strongest Avenger possibly 2nd.

4. No, I don't think anyone could have that lip mark. It's why Klaue. Think that's how you spell it. Told him that no one gets into Wakanda. He spoke the language and knew their history a little as well. His dad was teaching him about Wakanda that whole time is what I was thinking.

5. He betrayed them for the same reasons baby Killmonger wanted to. Get this technology to help ppl who look like us. You're right though the King's brother should not have been there.


I had a problem with killing the brother and leaving the body for the child to see. Then they didn't even search the apartment. It was completely stupid



Misleading thread title but thank god someone said it, I thought we weren't allowed to say it cause of racism or something, it's a pretty mundane Marvel movie, nothing at all special or note worthy. Getting that off my chest feels so good.



 

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GameOverture said:
the thing about killmonger's father is that he didn't betray wakanda for personal gain, he did it to spark a revolution after living in the ghetto and seeing what was happening to black people while wakanda was doing nothing.

A lot of these seem like nitpicks that could apply to most other superhero movies, but yeah, I agree with some (especially with the whole vibranium is overpowered stuff)

They mostly are nitpicks. I had a great time and really enjoyed the film. It's probably in my top five superhero films of all time. Almost cried a couple of times because it stirred up emotions in me that I can't even explain.



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d21lewis said:
You want more, you say? Okay.

-The heart shaped herb: In the comics, only a member of the Royal family can eat the herb. The movie doesn't say this and if it's not in the movie, it doesn't exist. So why didn't all of the sexy bald women have super powers when they went to confront Klaue (Klaw)?

-Super speed!: In Civil War, Black Panther ran down a goddam car or motorcycle or something. Why didn't he demonstrate his super speed to catch the escaping Klaue on either occasion? Did he forget he had it?

-Roughing it: Again, as advanced as Wakanda is, M'Baku (The Man Ape) chooses to live in the icy mountains and wear a loincloth? He doesn't like cable TV? Xbox?

-Magical Snow: Black Panther got thrown off of a waterfall and left for dead. M'Baku's plan to save him was to bury him in snow? I don't buy it. That guy was going to eat the Black Panther. Vegetarian, my ass! This medical miracle is right up there with the paralysis healing rope from The Dark Knight Rises.

- What's in that herb, anyway?: You drink it and you get to go to heaven or something. Talk to the dead, I guess. Whatever religion Wakanda has should be the dominant religion. Just bring that stuff to the United States and let Mike Pence have a sip. God is real and there's life after death!

1. If they could I know I would've eaten that shit.

 

2. He was shooting that arm gun at him right? 

 

3. Well we have the Amish. Although I'm not totally sure what they do or don't do just what I've heard. 

 

4. Yep. Or the fix-a-knee in Batman.

 

5. I think that the vibranium has something to do with the Soul Gem. It'd explain the real hallucinations lol



Yeah, I watched it and pretty much thought the plot was horrible and the characters were underdeveloped. However, it made you ask yourself bigger questions which is something no other Marvel film had done, so I guess to reviewers that overrides everything else.

Also, is the entire technology from his kid sister? There was never anyone else in her "lab" and she apparently designed all the tracks that were already in place. She must have been a genius at like age 4.



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