Errorist76 said:
thismeintiel said:
Exactly. If MS launches early, they are going to piss off everyone who bought a X. We also have seen that MS isn't treating Xbox like a main priority anymore. There isn't going to be massive 1st party output next gen. At least nothing compared to Sony's. And you can guarantee that Sony is going to take advantage of the year later launch, with better specs at the same price. Add in B/C with PS4, with Pro enhancements, and you can bet a lot of PS4 gamers are going to stick with PS. Really, history has proven that all Sony has to do is not screw up, like they did with the PS3 launch, and they win big. PS is just that big of a brand WW.
Having said that, I expect Sony is aiming for a late 2019 launch, with Xbox again scrambling to match that date, or they launch 6-12 months later. 2019 just makes the most sense. 6 years, which is a good length for a gen. 25th Anniversary of the PS brand (limited edition 25th anniversary SKU at launch, possibly with PS1 coloring, and the S in PS5 looks like a backwards 2.) Pro, their mid-gen console, released 3 years after the PS4, and PS5 would launch 3 years after it. I think we're looking at a $399-$449 price, with a slightly customized Ryzen/Vega APU that's roughly 2x the power of the X. If so, the 5, but even more so the Pro, is going to be an absolute beast.
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I agree on your reasoning. Makes the most sense imho...also Sony can’t afford to relax and wait. They need to stay in front, need to make the next move. That doesn’t mean PS4 won’t be selling anymore or won’t get any games. It’s possible Sony will fade out the slim at some point, but I’m not sure this will happen. We all know Sony does support its consoles for along time, even if the next gen is already out.
PS5 at 25th anniversary would be a fitting present.
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The 25th anniversary is a good point, no doubt. PS isn't going to let that go without making a HUGE deal about it. Launching PS5 in conjunction with the 25th would most certainly be a big way to kick off next gen. However, the jump to next gen most certainly has questions and hurdles that seem tough to overcome by even late 2019. While I do think it's potentially possible, I really and truly think unless the PS5 ends up just another stepping stone, more like the phone model once again, costing $400 again, that the price is going to hit $500. Which wouldn't be that big of a deal as long as they have room to drop the price the year after if they need to, to compete with 'XB2' if it launches for $400 or is $500 and spec'd to make PS5 look really weak.
Now, to go out on a limb to an extent, if PS really would like to push PS5 off until say 2021/2022, then using that 25th anniversary to usher in a PS4 Premium with SE models, would work like a charm. The logo idea wouldn't work with 4 unfortunately, but it could easily be marketed anyway. If I remember correctly, the more capable Neo protoype that would have launched 2017, was supposed to use a version of Ryzen. Assuming it would still have been fully compatible with PS4, like Pro is now, then it would be the perfect console to bridge the gap between PS4 and PS5.
Not only could you end up getting a 25th SE console, but one with 8-10TF, and a Ryzen CPU that most likely would be capable of 60fps. Whether or not games would be held back at 30fps on Premium for the time being like some XB1X games, or maybe just the single player campaigns could be 60fps if the multi has to be 30fps for all PS4's, but it would probably allow that PS4 Premium to play PS5 games with reduced visuals in the future. That would also allow PS to push PS5's tech even further and launch at $500, which would be less of a shock 2021/2022, and would be acceptable if the PS4 Premium only cost $300 at that point in time and was FC.
Maybe they don't even make a 'Premium' per se, but instead of a Pro Slim, they just drop Pro and launch a Pro 2 (Premium) for $400. I know that's never been done, but neither has a mid gen Pro model. PS4 Pro V2, so you have version 2, or 52 (25 backwards). Maybe just call it PS4 Pro V to signify it's ties to PS5. Maybe the SE consoles could have PS4 Pro 2V or V25 or V2.5 or V2-5. How bout a more simple PS4 Pro 25 with the 2 in red and 5 in yellow, teal, and blue like the PS logo? Maybe the 5 is tucked in behind the 2 and on and angle just like the PS logo. PS4 Pro II and Pro IIV? I dunno, but it definitely could be marketed in the name as well.
Last edited by EricHiggin - on 11 March 2018