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revinit said:
Slade6alpha said:
I'm sure the President and his demeanor doesn't help.

Actually, there were more racially motivated violent acts during Obama's presidency than there were at any time since the 1960's. Trump haters are going to blame EVERYTHING on Trump, no matter how ridiculous it it sounds. It's just what haters do.

Ladies and gentlemen.  This is why racism is still a problem in the US.  Because lies like this are spread and believed.



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Out of curiosity, do European countries view the U.S. poorly?

I've heard that many countries around the world don't like us, but I'm not big into politics myself. I would think one of the reasons is the "ignorance" we have towards other countries. By that I mean that we don't really know a lot about other countries as much as they know about us.

I couldn't tell you who the leader of Brazil is, but most people around the world seem to know who Trump is. Also, is America the only place in the world that makes movies? I know India has "Bollywood" or something like that, but I don't think they have any films that make it over here.



RaptorChrist said:
Out of curiosity, do European countries view the U.S. poorly?

I've heard that many countries around the world don't like us, but I'm not big into politics myself. I would think one of the reasons is the "ignorance" we have towards other countries. By that I mean that we don't really know a lot about other countries as much as they know about us.

I couldn't tell you who the leader of Brazil is, but most people around the world seem to know who Trump is. Also, is America the only place in the world that makes movies? I know India has "Bollywood" or something like that, but I don't think they have any films that make it over here.

The influence of the US cinema industry is certainly massive and it shouldn't necessarily be so, just as I think westernism and the spread of western culture, clothing, values etc. should be, well, not exactly imperialism, but not something other countries should take for granted or necessary either.

I know, though, that China is making really massive, really high budget films in the last years - films that gross as much over there, or even more, than American movies gross on the US. How far those will spread in the future, like Japanese and now Korean culture has spread, as those countries became more developed, is anyone's guess.

OT - also somewhat relevant as historical roots of the issue, even though OP compares it to Portuguese rather than Spanish colonization:

(Please do not take the image (very) seriously.)

A friendly reminder to everyone, anyways, that part or most of what you hear about stuff like the Spanish inquisition, colonization etc. are basically "fake news" dating back to the days the British Empire and the Spanish Empire were fierce rivals and the former was trying to find a way to demonize the later. It's called the "Spanish Black Legend", look it up.



 

 

 

 

 

Keep spewing more garbage. All you said was there are black neighborhoods, blacks have their own culture and blacks have their own words. How is this racist? People self-segregate for the most part in all areas of the world, but this is helped by wealth. So all I can pull from what you said was that the US is wealthier than Brazil, which is obvious.

The media has blown racism way out of proportion for the US, showing a very vocal minority on both sides for ratings. There is no systemic racism and laws prevent it from ever happening. 



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narfwack said:

The media has blown racism way out of proportion for the US, showing a very vocal minority on both sides for ratings. There is no systemic racism and laws prevent it from ever happening. 

Unfortunately, you are speaking from a position that is not impacted by the problem and therefore you don't experience it and so to you, it doesn't exist.



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RaptorChrist said:
Out of curiosity, do European countries view the U.S. poorly?

I've heard that many countries around the world don't like us, but I'm not big into politics myself. I would think one of the reasons is the "ignorance" we have towards other countries. By that I mean that we don't really know a lot about other countries as much as they know about us.

I couldn't tell you who the leader of Brazil is, but most people around the world seem to know who Trump is. Also, is America the only place in the world that makes movies? I know India has "Bollywood" or something like that, but I don't think they have any films that make it over here.

A lot of the hatred against USA is really envy and jealousness.

narfwack said:

Keep spewing more garbage. All you said was there are black neighborhoods, blacks have their own culture and blacks have their own words. How is this racist? People self-segregate for the most part in all areas of the world, but this is helped by wealth. So all I can pull from what you said was that the US is wealthier than Brazil, which is obvious.

The media has blown racism way out of proportion for the US, showing a very vocal minority on both sides for ratings. There is no systemic racism and laws prevent it from ever happening. 

Nope man, the point he was doing with Brazil is that we don't have ethnic neighborhoods, social or economical we do have... And sorry to tell you, but there are a lot of billionaires and millionaires in Brazil... we have in São Paulo one of the highest concentration of high end luxury stores.



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SpokenTruth said:
narfwack said:

The media has blown racism way out of proportion for the US, showing a very vocal minority on both sides for ratings. There is no systemic racism and laws prevent it from ever happening. 

Unfortunately, you are speaking from a position that is not impacted by the problem and therefore you don't experience it and so to you, it doesn't exist.

Everyone experiences some sort of racism in their life time. Anyone can look at empirical data or objective facts that can be backed and can come up with an informed opinion. You can't dismiss others' opinions because they're not brown enough. That in and of itself is racist.

Anecdotal experiences or heresay can't be used as proof of something like systemic racism or large scale racism because it's not objective. 



Aeolus451 said:
SpokenTruth said:

Unfortunately, you are speaking from a position that is not impacted by the problem and therefore you don't experience it and so to you, it doesn't exist.

Everyone experiences some sort of racism in their life time. Anyone can look at empirical data or objective facts that can be backed and can come up with an informed opinion. You can't dismiss others' opinions because they're not brown enough. That in and of itself is racist.

Anecdotal experiences or heresay can't be used as proof of something like systemic racism or large scale racism because it's not objective. 

I didn't dismiss his conclusion because he's not brown but because he's not subject to the systematic racism he claims doesn't exist.  It's the lack of experience, not the lack of color.

And yes, anecdotes are admissible as they are they are relevant to the issue.  They are needed to realize the systemic nature of it all.



Massimus - "Trump already has democrat support."

“In Brazil we don’t have black neighbourhoods, we have neighbourhoods filled with black people.” I think that sums up the ridiculousness and ignorance of this thread.



I'd blame it largely on the media.  Even the supposedly "Liberal" media has a lot of race problems.  

 

For example, Black people are disproportionately portrayed as welfare recipients, despite most welfare recipients being white.  This is true even on the so called "Clinton News Network" .