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Jumpin said:
Another issue is that it would be a strange move for Nintendo’s next iteration to feature no power enhancements over the first model. With Nintendo handhelds, each new iteration featured improved chipsets over the older models. DS Lite was more powerful than DS, and DSi was more powerful than DS Lite, 3DS was more powerful than DSi, and new3DS was more powerful than 3DS.

The DSi was more powerful, but I'm pretty sure the DS Lite was the same as the DS.

Also you're conveniently missing out the GBA SP/Micro and the 2DS, which saw no power enhancements.



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or they could make custom joycons with circle pads instead of thumb sticks, and then just release a custom grip and achieve the same thing without redesigning the entire console



Jumpin said:
Another issue is that it would be a strange move for Nintendo’s next iteration to feature no power enhancements over the first model. With Nintendo handhelds, each new iteration featured improved chipsets over the older models. DS Lite was more powerful than DS, and DSi was more powerful than DS Lite, 3DS was more powerful than DSi, and new3DS was more powerful than 3DS.

No, DS Lite wasn't more powerful. It reduced the weight and size of the first DS model, had a better screen-to-body ratio (smaller bezels) and enhanced battery life.

Exactly the things they should do with a Switch lite.

 

The 3DS XL also wasn't more powerful than the 3DS. Again it enhanced the battery life and had a better screen-to-body ratio (smaller bezels).



Clamp-shell design was all about DS - dual screens



Why new models and not plastic shells for the current Switch to slot into?

 

A bigger version of above makes Switch shorter but thicker.  They could have built in controls or space for the joycons to slot in. It wouldn't even need support from Nintendo.

An OS option to shrink the viewable display could allow other shells that cover part of the screen with buttons making it close to the size of a joyconless Switch.



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Maybe dual screens return with the switch 2, then we can do it (with the top being detatch dockable and the bottom turning into a wii U gamepad) but not before then.

As for tge TV box argument- no. Not now. Maybe at the middle of its lifespan like tge 2ds but not. Now.



NoirSon said:
flashfire926 said:
This, by definition is not a switch if it cant dock.

True 

bundle it with an official nintendo mini dock



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Anyone who is pining for a "Switch Lite" or a "Switch TV" is plain and simple missing the whole point of what Switch is and why Nintendo made it.  Nuvendil is 100% on point.  Basically what you guys are asking for is a totally different (2nd) Nintendo console...and if Nintendo ever decides to deliver that type of product again, it can't be "Switch".  Switch was purposefully designed and made to be exactly what it is, a hybrid console.  If it doesn't do both, it's not a Switch.  They bet big on this form factor, and it is paying off in spades.  There is no reason for them to deviate from this, and I don't see Nintendo going back to a standard box console for a couple generations, if ever.  There may be some slight chance of having a dedicated handheld successor to DS...but that would undermine their efforts to have unified development teams and streamlining their delivery of software, so I honestly do not see them going that route either.  Switch is quite easily portable and it has the power to play home console games.  Why would anyone want a smaller form factor (and thus weaker hardware) that would not be able to play home console quaIity titles just for the sake of being slightly smaller?  That's going backwards instead of moving forward, imo.  I believe with the success of this form factor, this is the direction Nintendo will stay with for quite some time.  Alongside their unique software, it is what differentiates them from the competition and makes them relevant in the industry.  A standard box or another weak handheld is not enough for them to succeed anymore.

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Kwaidd said:

Basically what you guys are asking for is a totally different (2nd) Nintendo console... no, just additional form factors which can play the same games and which will reduce hardware costs and can therefore reach different customer circles

and if Nintendo ever decides to deliver that type of product again, it can't be "Switch". Switch was purposefully designed and made to be exactly what it is, a hybrid console.  If it doesn't do both, it's not a Switch.  They bet big on this form factor, and it is paying off in spades.

Not everyone who wants to buy and play Switch games also wants to switch between different playstyles. Neither does any Switch game expects that the player(s)  switch from TV mode to handheld mode while playing, the players have free choice about their playstyle. No forced playstyle like some Wii U gamews (NOW look at the tablet screen... NOW look at the TV screen... NOW look at the tablet screen again...)

That freedom also means that some people who always want to play in TV mode or who always want to play in handheld mode have to pay for expensive features they don't need. Why don't give them a low cost option without the hardware they don't need? And if they later change their mind, they can SWITCH to the full experience by upgrading with accessories (which are very profitable to Nintendo).

  There is no reason for them to deviate from this, and I don't see Nintendo going back to a standard box console for a couple generations, if ever.  There may be some slight chance of having a dedicated handheld successor to DS...but that would undermine their efforts to have unified development teams and streamlining their delivery of software

No, a cheaper Switch TV box or a smaller/cheaper Switch Lite wouldn't undermine their efforts of unified development... they would play the same Switch games and there wouldn't be any additional software development costs. All Switch games have to support docked and undocked mode anyways... it doesn't matter if there are hardware revisions on the market which (initially) only support one of these modes.

, so I honestly do not see them going that route either.  Switch is quite easily portable... but a new revision could be even better portable and/or have a better battery life. Progress and enhancements aren't evil. They even enhance the longevity of a platform.

...and it has the power to play home console games.  Why would anyone want a smaller form factor (and thus weaker hardware) that would not be able to play home console quaIity titles just for the sake of being slightly smaller? 

A smaller form factor doesn't automatically mean weaker hardware! There is a constant progress of hardware efficiency, especially in mobile space. Why not use that progress in later revisions? And nobody wants (or suggested) weaker hardware for a smaller Switch revision!

That's going backwards instead of moving forward, imo.  I believe with the success of this form factor, this is the direction Nintendo will stay with for quite some time.  Alongside their unique software, it is what differentiates them from the competition and makes them relevant in the industry.  A standard box or another weak handheld is not enough for them to succeed anymore.

It's ironic that some Switch fans are strictly against some options and choice in Switch hardware (Switch TV, Switch handheld additionally to the Switch hybrid) while praising the options and choice of the Switch in playstyles, which helped making the Switch to a success.



That mock-up makes it seem like the trigger buttons would be right under the screen and thus inaccessible.