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Forums - Politics Discussion - Delta and United join list of companies to cut ties with the NRA - maybe this truly is the end of gun rights in the US?

FIT_Gamer on 25 February 2018
Yerm said:
Ive tried remaining open-minded and at the most just wanted some simple gun reform to make the damn things less accessible to psychopaths, but it has gone past that at this point. there is no good reason why any US citizen needs to own a gun, and the longer we try to act like guns are not the problem, the more people are going to get killed.

Yeah there are. To protect against our corrupt police and against the thousands of guns that are brought into this country illegally by people with bad intentions. 



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Nem on 25 February 2018
spurgeonryan said:

Two major airlines. A cybersecurity firm. Six car rental brands. A home security company. An Omaha bank. Companies have scrambled to cut ties with the National Rifle Association over the past couple of days, and the list continued to grow into the weekend.

Delta Air Lines (DAL) announced Saturday morning that it's ending discounted rates for NRA members. "We will be requesting that the NRA remove our information from their website," the company said in a tweet.

United Airlines (UAL) followed a short time later, saying the company will no longer offer discounts on flights to the NRA annual meeting.

And TrueCar (TRUE), a car buying service, said late Friday that it would end its deal with the NRA as of February 28.

The companies were the latest to abandon partnerships with the NRA amid a renewed public debate over tightened gun laws following a school shooting in Florida last week that left 17 dead.

First National Bank of Omaha on Thursday pledged to stop issuing an NRA-branded Visa card. A bank spokesperson said "customer feedback" prompted a review of its partnership with the NRA, and it chose not to renew its current contract.

There was also a wave of car rental outfits. Enterprise Holdings, which runs the Enterprise, Alamo and National car rental groups, announced that it will end the discount deal it has with the NRA on March 26.

On Friday, car rental company Hertz (HTZ) said in a tweet that it's also ending its NRA rental car discount program.

Read rest at Source: http://money.cnn.com/2018/02/23/news/companies/enterprise-nra-car-rental-discounts/index.html

 

I think the government wants us to lose our gun rights. That way as soon as they can they will have total control of us. Only reason we have any freedom in America is due to guns. There are ways to handle this, sometimes when I see how easy it is to get a gun I laugh. Just fix the laws.

Ryan... honestly... we have no gun rights in europe. Do you think we have no freedom? (aquisition is highly regulated)

Why do some americans think this way? That is utterly ridiculous. Are you planning a revolution and that's why you want guns? Why are you defending Anarchy?

It's so backwards that i don't even know what to say. How can people not see that? Civilians don't need guns. You are living in a developed country. You are safe. All the easy to get guns do is make it easy for people to kill each other everytime they get angry at something. It's not civilised. It's not the wild west anymore.

Do you really need to sacrifice a bunch of children to the slaughter every year just to keep your illusion that with your gun you can go take down the government? This is utter lunacy!

Last edited by Nem - on 25 February 2018

Nem on 25 February 2018
RolStoppable said:
Guns are not the problem. People who protect the right of mentally unqualified people to own guns are the problem.

Guns ARE the problem. Guns are made to KILL people. Don't tell me they aren't the problem, you are just plain wrong. It's backwards thinking like that that leads to the slaughter of children every year. Do you feel proud about that? That you are enabling murder?



o_O.Q on 25 February 2018
loy310 said:
PwerlvlAmy said:
Only people opposing NRA are against the 2A imo. Its obviously what the lefts end game is. Not a wise choice on their part.

Gun rights have become a life or death issue, it’s so outta control that nut jobs are taking their 2nd right and using it against defenseless children. Guns don’t make you free, nor do they protect your freedom they do one thing and one thing only and that’s obliterate life, at the moment mostly children life it seems.

"Guns don’t make you free, nor do they protect your freedom"

the war for independence?

the civil war?



Signalstar on 25 February 2018
FIT_Gamer said:
Yerm said:
Ive tried remaining open-minded and at the most just wanted some simple gun reform to make the damn things less accessible to psychopaths, but it has gone past that at this point. there is no good reason why any US citizen needs to own a gun, and the longer we try to act like guns are not the problem, the more people are going to get killed.

Yeah there are. To protect against our corrupt police and against the thousands of guns that are brought into this country illegally by people with bad intentions. 

Out of genuine curiosity has there ever been a case of a civilian using a gun to defend themselves against the police where the end result did not have that person either killed by the police or convicted of a crime? I think one of the reasons we have so many controversial police shootings is that our officers are up against a heavily armed populace and they never know who has a gun or not.



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o_O.Q on 25 February 2018
Nem said:
spurgeonryan said:

Two major airlines. A cybersecurity firm. Six car rental brands. A home security company. An Omaha bank. Companies have scrambled to cut ties with the National Rifle Association over the past couple of days, and the list continued to grow into the weekend.

Delta Air Lines (DAL) announced Saturday morning that it's ending discounted rates for NRA members. "We will be requesting that the NRA remove our information from their website," the company said in a tweet.

United Airlines (UAL) followed a short time later, saying the company will no longer offer discounts on flights to the NRA annual meeting.

And TrueCar (TRUE), a car buying service, said late Friday that it would end its deal with the NRA as of February 28.

The companies were the latest to abandon partnerships with the NRA amid a renewed public debate over tightened gun laws following a school shooting in Florida last week that left 17 dead.

First National Bank of Omaha on Thursday pledged to stop issuing an NRA-branded Visa card. A bank spokesperson said "customer feedback" prompted a review of its partnership with the NRA, and it chose not to renew its current contract.

There was also a wave of car rental outfits. Enterprise Holdings, which runs the Enterprise, Alamo and National car rental groups, announced that it will end the discount deal it has with the NRA on March 26.

On Friday, car rental company Hertz (HTZ) said in a tweet that it's also ending its NRA rental car discount program.

Read rest at Source: http://money.cnn.com/2018/02/23/news/companies/enterprise-nra-car-rental-discounts/index.html

 

I think the government wants us to lose our gun rights. That way as soon as they can they will have total control of us. Only reason we have any freedom in America is due to guns. There are ways to handle this, sometimes when I see how easy it is to get a gun I laugh. Just fix the laws.

Ryan... honestly... we have no gun rights in europe. Do you think we have no freedom? (aquisition is highly regulated)

Why do some americans think this way? That is utterly ridiculous. Are you planning a revolution and that's why you want guns? Why are you defending Anarchy?

It's so backwards that i don't even know what to say. How can people not see that? Civilians don't need guns. You are living in a developed country. You are safe. All the easy to get guns do is make it easy for people to kill each other everytime they get angry at something. It's not civilised. It's not the wild west anymore.

Do you really need to sacrifice a bunch of children to the slaughter every year just to keep your illusion that with your gun you can go take down the government? This is utter lunacy!

"Civilians don't need guns. You are living in a developed country. You are safe."

except for all those times in history when people needed guns to fight oppression

its infantile to assume that such a situation will never occur again

 

"Do you really need to sacrifice a bunch of children to the slaughter every year"

killing and death are a fact of reality and that will be the case whether guns are completely eradicated from society or not

 

"just to keep your illusion that with your gun you can go take down the government?"

this is how america as an independent country was formed to begin with... wtf are you talking about?



Nem on 25 February 2018
RolStoppable said:
Nem said:

Guns ARE the problem. Guns are made to KILL people. Don't tell me they aren't the problem, you are just plain wrong. It's backwards thinking like that that leads to the slaughter of children every year. Do you feel proud about that? That you are enabling murder?

No, guns aren't the problem. There are guns in all of Europe, and Europe doesn't have the problems of the USA.

I'm sorry? Getting a gun is extremely difficult in europe. Do you think we donlt have crazy people aswell? The difference is, we don't give weapons out like candy. It's extremely difficult to get a fire arm. You need training, test and a license and even so it's very difficult to obtain. It is also subjects to registration, regular checks and limited use.

This isn't anything like the US. We don't give out guns, that is why we don't have shootings every month.



loy310 on 25 February 2018
o_O.Q said:
loy310 said:

Gun rights have become a life or death issue, it’s so outta control that nut jobs are taking their 2nd right and using it against defenseless children. Guns don’t make you free, nor do they protect your freedom they do one thing and one thing only and that’s obliterate life, at the moment mostly children life it seems.

"Guns don’t make you free, nor do they protect your freedom"

the war for independence?

the civil war?

The south and king going bankrupt won those wars



captain carot on 25 February 2018
RolStoppable said:
Guns are not the problem. People who protect the right of mentally unqualified people to own guns are the problem.

There are multiple factors there.

American gun mentality. This is very different from other developed countries with more liberal gun rights. Like Swiss or Finland. And that might actually be the main problem. This isn't only about killing sprees but about gun accidents as well.

Another one is that it is far to easy for 'mentally unqualified people' as you put it to get a gun. There's no background check or something like that. It's pretty ridiciculous that you have to get a driving license but no real gunning license.

And there's a far to strong weapons lobby, which of course includes the NRA, with far to much influence. Why haven't bum stocks been banned already for example? Mainly because of a far to influencial lobby.



Harkins1721 on 25 February 2018

I’m all for stricter laws. But you cannot take away them. Should be a federal ID across all states and a waiting period plus a background check. But you don’t need to know what I have. I like carrying a gun it’s as simple as that.