Nem said:
o_O.Q said:
"Civilians don't need guns. You are living in a developed country. You are safe."
except for all those times in history when people needed guns to fight oppression
its infantile to assume that such a situation will never occur again
"Do you really need to sacrifice a bunch of children to the slaughter every year"
killing and death are a fact of reality and that will be the case whether guns are completely eradicated from society or not
"just to keep your illusion that with your gun you can go take down the government?"
this is how america as an independent country was formed to begin with... wtf are you talking about?
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What the utter hell? You live in a democracy, albeit a flawed one. You think you with your gun are gonna take down the US highly trained and equipped military? Really?! And for this you will enable mass murders in a monthly basis? Who is being infantile here?
Death happens yes, murder can be reduced.
Dude, this isn't the middle ages. You are independant and have the worlds biggest military. Your weapon is your vote. A gun will just get you killed.
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"And for this you will enable mass murders in a monthly basis?"
england and france have gun control and they've had just about the same number of mass murders last year... so what's your point?
"Death happens yes, murder can be reduced."
true if you wanted to completely eradicate murder you actually could... you'd just have to enslave the entire community completely
or you could be sensible and accept that the individuals of a society in exchange for a reasonable amount of freedom must take on an appropriate amount of responsibility for their safety as a result
what i do know is that you cannot have freedom without responsibility
"Dude, this isn't the middle ages. You are independant "
yes exactly and that's the point how did countries like france and america progress towards being relatively free societies?
in france the people rose up and cut the heads of those in charge because they were tyrannical
the same type of battle occurred with the colonists in america
and that is the core of this issue, that the people should always be prepared to fight for their freedom if their government becomes tyrannical
not as you are suggesting adopt the mentality of slaves because things at present aren't quite that severe yet