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Bajablo said:
Nighthawk117 said:

In theory, yes, but in all likelihood, no.  Not in our lifetime, at least if I have any say about it.

our children have the RIGHT to be shot in our schools, and i'll be damned if i let some legislation take that away from them!!

Kinda like that? ^

And what legislation do you propose that would prevent children from being murdered?



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dirtylemons said:
newwil7l said:

Crime rate in geral has seen a decrease each year. However mass shootings like this are still a persistent problem.

I wouldn't argue otherwise. The declining homicide rate just seems to fly in the face of the notion that relatively easy access to guns in the U.S. is somehow at the heart of these things.

The US has the highest incarceration rate in the World, this may explain much of that trend, but it comes with it's own set of costly issues 



Rab said:
dirtylemons said:

I wouldn't argue otherwise. The declining homicide rate just seems to fly in the face of the notion that relatively easy access to guns in the U.S. is somehow at the heart of these things.

The US has the highest incarceration rate in the World, this may explain much of that trend, but it comes with it's own set of costly issues 

I admit I'm not well-versed on much of the incarceration data for the U.S., so I can't respond with any real degree of knowledge.



dirtylemons said:
Bajablo said:

our children have the RIGHT to be shot in our schools, and i'll be damned if i let some legislation take that away from them!!

Kinda like that? ^

And what legislation do you propose that would prevent children from being murdered?

a good step in the right direction is fewer guns.. if you have no gun you can't shoot anyone



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Bajablo said:
dirtylemons said:

And what legislation do you propose that would prevent children from being murdered?

a good step in the right direction is fewer guns.. if you have no gun you can't shoot anyone

But there are still plenty of ways to murder people. Mexico has very strict gun laws, yet they also have a murder rate over three times worse than the U.S.



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The Second Amendment strikes again.



 

 

dirtylemons said:
Bajablo said:

a good step in the right direction is fewer guns.. if you have no gun you can't shoot anyone

But there are still plenty of ways to murder people. Mexico has very strict gun laws, yet they also have a murder rate over three times worse than the U.S.

yeah, but there is only one way to have a school shooting.. guns.. so yeah.. but americans are too f*cking stupid to realize their lovely guns are one part of the issue.



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Bajablo said:
dirtylemons said:

But there are still plenty of ways to murder people. Mexico has very strict gun laws, yet they also have a murder rate over three times worse than the U.S.

yeah, but there is only one way to have a school shooting.. guns.. so yeah.. but americans are too f*cking stupid to realize their lovely guns are one part of the issue.

Again, shooting isn't the only way to do physical harm. Mexico has a far worse problem with violence, but it's almost never discussed. Why this particular issue, especially when violence overall, but gun violence as well, is on the decline?



dirtylemons said:
Bajablo said:

yeah, but there is only one way to have a school shooting.. guns.. so yeah.. but americans are too f*cking stupid to realize their lovely guns are one part of the issue.

Again, shooting isn't the only way to do physical harm. Mexico has a far worse problem with violence, but it's almost never discussed. Why this particular issue, especially when violence overall, but gun violence as well, is on the decline?

Almost all of the illegal guns used in crime I Mexico are smuggled across the border from the U.S. So again the issue stems from the overabundance of guns in American society.



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