Forums - Politics Discussion - EU voted to end Geo Blocking!!

DonFerrari said:
Ka-pi96 said:

There shouldn't be. It should just be allowed by default. Microsoft allow you to change country on an XBL account without restriction. Steam let you change the country of your account (with the caveat that you need an IP address for the country you're changing to). So why don't Sony? Because they're dicks, that's why!

Yes it can be because they are dicks, still its their service and they may do it and you as customer not accepting it not sign-in.

Ka-pi96 said:

The UK hasn't left the EU. They've started procedures to do so, but as of now they are still an EU member.

 

As for the topic, while a good idea this doesn't even come close to as good as I'd like it to be. Some things not counting sucks, but it also being only for EU countries kind of makes it pointless. Would love to see a time when European/American/Japanese etc PSN, Netflix, itunes and whatnot all have the same content available for everyone at the same price regardless of region. Maybe one day.

Lot of different licenses and regulations also it make the cost lower when they limit content to regions.

When I log into crunchyroll in house using language as PT-BR I have some content available while on EN there is some different, when I log in the company (connection passthrough USA, so I have "geolocation" from there) the licenses changes and some content that I had in PT-BR won't show unless I put in EN while there will be more content in EN... so it is a lot convoluted.

Limiting content to regions also makes things cost more. I know here in the UK we are one of the worst off for that. We often have among the highest prices yet less content than regions like the US which gets things cheaper as well.

And it's quite easy to fix the licencing issue. If they're intent on completely ending geo blocking then they'd just make it illegal to sell region exclusive licences. You can licence the thing globally, or you can piss off.



Bet Shiken that COD would outsell Battlefield in 2018. http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8749702

Around the Network

This sounds like it has a lot to do with taxes and laws in favor of what the EU wants versus what each country within the EU wants.

Last edited by Aeolus451 - on 06 February 2018

DonFerrari said:
Nem said:

You can, yes. What i'm, saying is that you can't change the country of the one you already have.

AKA you lose all trophies.

And why should a legislation exist to allow you to change country on PSN? Even more when if you just want to access a different store you may just create an account over there, buy, download and use on your main acc.


And why shouldn't it? Europe is a union. We have a single currency and we can freely buy things in one country or the one next door without any barriers. This barrier is therefore redundant and an unecessary obstacle and us, european consumers would benefit from it being teared down.

Btw, we are talking about europe, not the whole world. Thought i'd mention because you seem to have missed the beggining of the conversation and might be under the wrong impression. 



That would actually be a welcome change.

I'm still shitting my pants over the proposed revised copyright laws they are going to push. They are proposing internet wide copyright match systems (a la youtube, and we see how well that one works... -_____-), among other asinine changes. They also had propositions for good things like a Eurpean equivalent to 'fair use', but from what I gather that has already been rejected, leaving only the absolute worst points of teir agenda to be voted on.
That vote has been delayed three times now, so they know it's not going to go over well. (*whispers* sorry for going off topic)



How was this a thing in the first place? Isn't the EU supposed to be a single market?



Around the Network
Majin-Tenshinhan said:
Barozi said:

lol what are you talking about? You do know that the EU is a customs union? There aren't any toll fees between the EU countries with the exception of products like gas, alcohol, coffee and tobacco.

I think you mean there aren't supposed to be.

And what makes you say that?

I've imported games, movies, books and even consoles from the UK, France, Spain and Italy and never paid a fee.



About damn time!

Though as someone mentioned before there are some loopholes still in place for specific countries.

I got burned once buying way back when COD Black Ops in the shop (for PC) and when I start the game all the menus were in Polish with no option to change to English or any other language (maybe Russian).

That's the biggest load of shit ever, basically if you're a foreigner you're just fucked.

I thought I learned the lesson, so I basically stopped buying any other games in physical media, instead I would just buy the more expensive international version for every single purchase. I did so with BF1 on origin, paid the price in Eur and the day it releases I get everything in Polish once again.

Lucky me that the customer support guy was actually a decent human and changed whatever settings were needed to get the "normal" version of the game. It had automatically switched all the language settings to Polish just because I had a Polish IP at the time.

So yeah... about fucking time this changes.



DonFerrari said:

From Brazil you can make acc on USA, JP and Europe without any hussle.

Yes, but you can't change the country of an account, you can only make a new one in a different country. Xbox Live allows you to change the country a few times per year.



torok said:
DonFerrari said:

From Brazil you can make acc on USA, JP and Europe without any hussle.

Yes, but you can't change the country of an account, you can only make a new one in a different country. Xbox Live allows you to change the country a few times per year.

You know... i was thinking about it and since the trophies are the only problem, Sony could definitly have it on PSN aswell. It would just require you to go over a procedure to transfer trophies or the creation of a new account with said trophies when changing country. 

This legislation may make the whole process easier but SCE could definitly do it already. They are just weird that way.



Barozi said:
Majin-Tenshinhan said:

I think you mean there aren't supposed to be.

And what makes you say that?

I've imported games, movies, books and even consoles from the UK, France, Spain and Italy and never paid a fee.

... Obviously that I have had to pay fees, what else would it be?



I am currently sigless.