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Software Ranking (12h from last update) :

1 (-) - NS - Super Mario Odyssey - 11 (-1) - 48.66$ - 10/27/17
2 (-) - NS - Mario Kart 8 Deluxe - 13 (+1) - 54.00$ - 04/28/17
3 (+1) - PS4 - Call of Duty: WWII - 25 (+1) - 39.99$ - 11/03/17
4 (+1) - NS - Kirby Star Allies - 26 (+1) - 54.24$ - 03/16/18
5 (-2) - NS - The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild - 30 (-12) - third party sellers only - 03/03/17
6 (-) - NS - Bayonetta 2&1 - 31 (+1) - 59.88$ - 02/16/18
7 (-) - PS4 - Monster Hunter World - 33 (-) - 59.88$ - 01/26/18
8 (N) - NS - Shining Resonance Refrain: DLE - 35 (N) - 49.99$ - 09/25/18
9 (+1) - XBO - Call of Duty:WWII - 36 (+2) - 39.99$ (+0.55) - 11/03/17
10 (-2) - NS - Splatoon 2 - 37 (-2) - 53.08$ (+0.12) - 06/21/17
11 (-2) - PS4 - God of War 4 - 38 (-2) - 59.96$ - 04/20/18
12 (-1) - 3DS - Pokemon Ultra Sun - 41 (-2) - 29.99$ - 11/17/17
13 (-1) - PS4 - Shadow of the Colossus - 44 (-4) - 39.99$ - 02/06/18
14 (N) - NS - Owlboy - 55 (N) - 29.99$ - 05/29/18
15 (-) - NS - Donkey Kong Country:TF - 60 (+6) - 59.99$ - 05/04/18
16 (N) - PS4 - Shining Resonance Refrain: DLE - 61 (N) - 49.99$ - 09/25/18
17 (-4) - Wii - Mario Kart Wii - 62 (+1) - 35.70$ - 04/10/08
18 (-4) - NS - Mario + Rabbids: Kingdom Battle - 66 (-1) - 46.94$ (+1.94) - 08/29/17
19 (+1) - 3DS - Detective Pikachu - 72 (+11) - 39.88$ - 02/13/18
20 (+2) - PS4 - Kingdom Come: Deliverance - 76 (+10) - 59.99$ - 02/13/18
21 (-) - PS4 - Far Cry 5 - 77 (+7) - 59.96$ - 03/27/18
22 (R) - PS4 - NBA 2k18 - 79 (R) - 39.58$ - 09/19/17
23 (+1) - NS - Pokken Tournament DX - 80 (+10) - 50.98$ (+0.98) - 09/22/17
24 (-8) - 3DS - Pokemon Ultra Moon - 84 (-7) - 34.99$ - 11/17/17
25 (-2) - PS4 - Titanfall 2 - 89 (-2) - 11.00$ (+0.01) - 10/28/16
26 (R) - XBO - Sea of Thieves - 97 (R) - 59.88$ - 03/20/18
27 (-8) - NS - The Elder Scroll V: Skyrim - 100 (-18) - 52.44$ (-0.01) - 11/17/17

Out of Top 100 :

17 (-3) - PS4 - Sword Art Online: Fatal Bullet - 78 (-20) - 59.99$ - 02/23/18
18 (-5) - PS4 - Crash Bandicoot: N Sane Trilogy - 81 (-25) - Third Party sellers only - 06/30/17
25 (-2) - NS - Arms - 92 (-9) - 49.99$ - 06/16/17
26 (R) - PS4 - Far Cry 4 - 95 (R) - 11.99$ - 11/18/14
27 (-3) - NS - Dradon Quest Builders - 100 (-15) - 44.60$ - 02/09/18

PS4: 9 (-1) ; NS: 12 (-) ; 3DS: 3 (-) ; XBO: 2 (+1) ; Wii: 1 (-)

New games !

And I like the price difference between Sun and Moon...



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hudsoniscool said:
Pubg bundle sold out, madden bundle sold out, x bundle 3 left in stock. Xbox has a legit shot for February. Yes it's loosing to switch on Amazon but just going back to January xbox was evidently close to taking npd even though it got crushed on Amazon. Not saying it's going to win just that has a chance.

Seams like the combo of pubg and the X really helping it now... mainly pubg.

Is it really?

With so many bundles, even those out of the top 100 will count a lot to the end result.

It's also the reason why Amazon looks biased to the Nintendo Switch: With both the SMO and the Splatoon 2 bundles being sold out long time ago, they really only have the gray and neon bundles left, which as a result constantly chart high. Sony and Microsoft have lots of bundles stealing each other's sales from the same console. As a result the different bundles don't chart as high, but the sheer mass of different bundles compensates for the perceived difference.



I'm glad that other people see the bias in the charts and presenting their own theories.



SWORDF1SH said:
Nuvendil said:

Wise advice.  And thus likely to be disregarded.

More importantly, you need to look at how these new SKUs do in the monthly charts.  Hourlies are fun to track but making calls based on short term hourly observation is ill advised.  

If there's enough SKUs, it can result in an upset, it's happened before.  But the new SKUs are awfully low.  Which as said before doesn't necessarily mean anything, but historically being under 50 usually indicates minimum impact to results.  And half the Xbone skus are 80 or under at the moment.  We'll have to keep an eye on it, but I don't think this will be enough.  There's an outside chance though, since the Switch only has 2 skus.

So you're putting weight on the rankings ? 

Lower units don't make a impact? 

Didn't you say that PS4 and Xbox One having more bundles is what's causing the illusion of a bias? T

hese bundles were hovering around the 200 mark or lower before price cut. Not even close to the 80 mark where you said has minimum impact.

Didn't you condemn putting weight on rankings, but here you are doing just that. 

It's fine to have that opinion but at least acknowledge the possibility of a bias and it's possible to put weight on the rankings even if it's the most simple form like "It's at 80th so it's not doing that great"  etc. 

Like I said, I'm looking at history for this.  Xbone has pulled the bundle bumb rush strategy many times.  So we have a pretty good handle on how this usually plays.  And looking at the past this doesn't look to be enough.  However, as I said, there's a chance.  And the reason is yes, the Switch has 2 SKUs.  So there is a mild distortion.  But I firmly believe it is a mild distortion.  If it was a major one, Amazon would have incorrectly awarded the win more than 1 time.    So it does throw a curve ball into the typical analysis, but so far Amazon's accuracy rate has been fine enough.  

However, the bigger issue for this stratagem is stock.  If Amazon is representative, these outside bundles may not have the necessary stock.  

IF Xbone manages to get all these bundles in the monthly charts, then theres a descent chance of an upset.  If they do not, then either Amazon's stock is very anomalously low OR expect Xbone to lose.  Cause the one thing that to my knowledge has thus far been universally true, no upset has ever occurred based on extra bundles outside the top 100 monthly rankings.  So again, I'm not making any definitive calls right now because this sale has not been going on long enough, we haven't seen if any of these bundles will hit the monthly top 100.  



I just want Xbox up YOY honestly. It had its best January ever last month. Here is hoping for the best February ever as well. Without knowing the exact numbers for January it's hard to predict February. But if all 3 consoles where infact very close then I don't see a reason why Xbox can't take this month with all these sales and bundles they got going on. Will be an interesting month regardless.



Halo MCC will sell 5+ million copies(including digital)

halo 5 will sell 10 million copies(including digital)

x1 will pass ps4 in USA, and UK.

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SWORDF1SH said:
I'm glad that other people see the bias in the charts and presenting their own theories.

I think bias is the wrong word in this sense which is what might be causing disagreement. It is more about understanding the various factors that influence the final outcome.

Amazon is in no way biased towards the switch more than any other console but the influence of multiple SKUs is often understated by those who comment and the use of the word bias is often from a defensive position by those who want to justify an already entrenched opinion that generally has no basis in logic, hence more of an excuse than an explanation.

Last edited by duduspace1 - on 24 February 2018

It's boring .



Just to put a finer point on what I am saying, Xbone currently has just 2 SKUs in the top 100 monthly: 56 and 61. When that changes, then things get interesting. If it's more or less still that when February ends, then the odds are most definitely not in Xbox's favor.



13 hours since last update.

HARDWARE:
#15 NS Neon (down 1)
#24 NS Grey (down 1)
#39 PS4 Fool's Edition (up 9)
#46 XB1X (down 3)
#47 XB1 Minecraft (down 5)
#48 SNES Classic (down 3)
#55 PS4 Pro (down 2)
#74 XB1 (up 7)
#76 PS4 Pro Star Wars (down 7)
#82 XB1 Forza (down 15)
#93 PSVR Skyrim (down 28)

SOFTWARE (Pre-orders Only)**:
Nothing at the moment

Does not affect this month: *
Software outside of the month only gets added if it's in the top 20: **


PS4: 3 in the top 100 / 1 in the top 50 / 0 in the top 20 / 0 in the top 10 / 0 in the top 5
XB1: 4 in the top 100 / 2 in the top 50 / 0 in the top 20 / 0 in the top 10 / 0 in the top 5
NIS:  2 in the top 100 / 2 in the top 50 / 1 in the top 20 / 0 in the top 10 / 0 in the top 5



xMetroid said:
Also is the Xbox one only getting a discount on amazon or other retailers also ?

It's a nationwide price cut.

For whatever reason Amazon only got the PUBG bundle yesterday and it sold out the same day.



Won bet with t3mporary_126 - I correctly predicted that the Wii U's LTD at the end of 2014 would be closer to 9 million than 10 million. http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6673287