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Chazore said: 

I find AR to be more interesting than VR, especially considering the price and what that tech can do.

 

That's a whole new level of AR for me and it blew my mind seeing it happen. All in real time and during daylight.

 

Well AR definitly has some potenial for production and stuff (so workers see their instruductions all the time and that stuff) but its hard to implement in gaming. Pokemon GO was a cool idea but thats basically already where the technology ends (though doing it with glasses instead if phones would be better).

 

I also dont think that most gamers wont enjoy VR or wont think its the best way to play games. Its more a fact that (with current low sales) many people just havnt tried it yet. There may be 30, 40 mio people that actually got the chance to try it so far. Thats basically it.

If you see people reacting to VR, in most cases they are blown away and find it far more enjoyable then watching stuff just on a tv.

Here are 2 example:

 

And Mobile VR (far inferior to psvr and co)

 

Or just do research for yourself: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=first+vr+expierence



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habam said:
konnichiwa said:

Well people seem to love it but the issue still is that hardly anyone buys it. 3 million in 2017?

Yeah it definitly has a slow start. 

But dont forget the hurdles to get into current VR are very high. You need a high end pc or Playstation to get into real VR. Thats ALOT of money for a brand new technology.

I think the time VR really takes off will be when standalone headsets with good quality and great content are available, but we arnt there yet.

 

Also its often a thing of perspective. Sure 3 mio looks not so great compared to 19 Mio sold PS4 is 2017. But 19 Mio Sold PS4 doesnt look good in comparison to 270 mio sold iPhone either, right ?

 

Sales of products actually arnt really connected with the quality of products. Its just one part. Stuff like marketing and just adaption, support and general opinion are relevant at well. People buy the playstation 4 because they know what they get, because their friends have it, because its popular. VR isnt yet there. Stuff like Tvs and Pcs and even smartphones didnt sold incredible well in the first years either. The iPhone is currently selling more units in 10 days then it did in its first year.

We are in a time where maybe 20 or 30 Mio people on this earth actually even tried VR at all. Give it time, let the technology mature. Im sure we will see higher sales in the near future (cant see it going away, to many people already loving it way to much). 

VR sometimes get compared with stuff like kinect or move or whatever but we shouldnt forget, there were never people as passion about those stuff as people are about VR. 

Let me use an other example, almost everybody I know agree that playing racing games with a wheel is way better than just a controller. They don't have to be that expensive for probably 50-75 you can find one that does the job but I not have met anyone of my racing fans friends who has one now.  Many on this forum probably bought one of those in the past but don't use it/hardly use it anymore.

I think the outlooks for VR are better but I would not be surprised that some users in the future will be like 'VR is great but I don't really need it'






konnichiwa said:

Let me use an other example, almost everybody I know agree that playing racing games with a wheel is way better than just a controller. They don't have to be that expensive for probably 50-75 you can find one that does the job but I not have met anyone of my racing fans friends who has one now.  Many on this forum probably bought one of those in the past but don't use it/hardly use it anymore.

I think the outlooks for VR are better but I would not be surprised that some users in the future will be like 'VR is great but I don't really need it'

Yeah thats basically similar to what I said. Selling VR just as a accesory like a wheel is a hard sell, it need (and most likely will be) a standaloen device with superb quality. 

 

Though: I think the gains in terms of quality you get with VR are ALOT more then you get with a wheel. A wheel makes your controls better (kind of similar to a xbox elite controller also). VR is a complete new way to expierence and see stuff and has so much potential.

Cool thing with VR is: Everything you can imagine is possible in VR. All the crazy stuff you would like to be able to do in real life is actually possible in VR. So the potential is basically infinite.



Graphics are a gimmick. Playing movies on a console is a gimmick. VR is a literal gimmick. Despite whatthe internet has made of the word as some negative thing. A Gimmick just means a trick or device to get people to purchase a product. Even if you want to use the internet version VR is still a gimmick and a limited one.



habam said:
Ka-pi96 said:

I feel sorry for those that don't realise their opinion isn't a fact...

Well most people think so. Sure its still an opinion in the end but everything is a opinion. "Witcher 3 looks better then Morrowind" => thats just your opinion.

 

Most people are blewn away from vr and playing a game like skyrim VR is just unbelievable.

 

Just do your own research. Look for any random video, nothing staged by me: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=first+vr+expierence

Prove it. Most people would be 3.8 billion (or more) people. So prove it. Prove that you've found 3.8 billion people that think VR is better than other types of gaming.



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A friend of mine has that HTC Vive device and I spent an evening trying it out. Meh. Maybe it'll be better on The future but I wouldn't bother yet. And I just can't see myself playing anything with goggles.



In the state it is now it's just a "Gimmick" maybe in 5 years ago it might no longer be.



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Ka-pi96 said:

Prove it. Most people would be 3.8 billion (or more) people. So prove it. Prove that you've found 3.8 billion people that think VR is better than other types of gaming.

1. There are 7 bio people on this world

2. Most of these havnt used vr yet. But if we look at what the ones that have already tried it and look what they think about vr, we can (by using basic logics) assume that the others will likely feel the same. Its called extrapolate, also used in elections and proofed to be pretty accurate.

 

If you have expierence of people that tried high end vr and disliked it, share them. Or even better, link me some "reaction to vr" videos where people put the headset off and say "not that great" or "didnt add anything to the game" or "I wish I could play that game on my tv". Just link me those videos , like I liked here tons of videos proofing the opposite. If its just opinion and both are true, you shouldnt have problems with finding videos about it.



Naum said:
In the state it is now it's just a "Gimmick" maybe in 5 years ago it might no longer be.

Ya the way it is being sold and presented currently it is very much a gimmick. 



 

It’s nice that you like it, personally, I am not a fan. It all seems very niche, and unlikely to get the broad support it needs to truly develop in its current form. Too many cables, needs to be wireless, and the controls are still not good enough.

Also, dude, I think bringing up porn as a reason why a technology will be successful might be a sign you are watching too much of it. Just my opinion...