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KLAMarine said:

JWeinCom said:
Now that said, the reason I know Wiimote is no gimmick is because I WANT to grab that Wiimote controller on everytime I sit down to game now. It has made a 3 years old game I had gotten completely bored to death of (Resident Evil 4) a new and addictive nature making the game better than it was at vanilla release or any other time I've played the game. Again the same deal with Metroid Prime Trilogy, giving the game a totally new level of addiction. Somehow playing on the pleasure centers of the brain in a massive way.


I'm not saying that VR is a gimmick, but if your argument is that it's not a gimmick because you like it, that can basically be applied to anything. And yeah, I genuinely do prefer Wiimotes for quite a few genres.

Yes! RE4 on Wii demonstrated how to do motion controls right!

I absolutely LOVE RE4 on Wii and it demonstrated that a pointer function has its uses. It makes perfect sense: a game with aiming in it stands to benefit from a peripheral that can aim.


The only problem I have with Resident Evil 4 on the Wii is that the motion controls are actually too accurate. Getting headshots and knocking knives out of the air becomes trivial.  Don't think that I could have unlocked the handcannon without them though.

John2290 said:
JWeinCom said:
Now that said, the reason I know Wiimote is no gimmick is because I WANT to grab that Wiimote controller on everytime I sit down to game now. It has made a 3 years old game I had gotten completely bored to death of (Resident Evil 4) a new and addictive nature making the game better than it was at vanilla release or any other time I've played the game. Again the same deal with Metroid Prime Trilogy, giving the game a totally new level of addiction. Somehow playing on the pleasure centers of the brain in a massive way.


I'm not saying that VR is a gimmick, but if your argument is that it's not a gimmick because you like it, that can basically be applied to anything. And yeah, I genuinely do prefer Wiimotes for quite a few genres.

You totally ignored all my other points. And motion controls were never a gimmick, they are still alive and well today and are used by many, Even the switch has kept motion controls as well as the dualshock 4. 

The only other point I saw was that you could use it for porn, and a claim about how "the vast portion" of people think it's how games should be played.  Considering that had no evidence to back it up, I ignored it.

You're basically just talking about how you like VR, and if you do, great, but you didn't really define any criteria for a gimmick or explain how VR does or does not fit.  As far as I can tell from your post, a gimmick is something that people don't like that isn't useful for porn.



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The VR fanatics are quickly becoming the biggest turnoff of VR...



Bet Shiken that COD would outsell Battlefield in 2018. http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8749702

I dont think this poll makes much sense. Many people on the internet will just say they have tried it (if they think they dislike it) to make their opinion more valid.

So this "I have tried it" doesnt make any sense scince haters will just click on it, no matter if they have tried it or not.

Also VR is pretty big, some phone based VR is alot different from high end VR.

Just check "VR Reaction Videos" on youtube. Most people that actually have tried it wont say its a gimmick.

Here are some: (opinions and expierence of the people are usually in the last 1-2 minutes of the videos)

 

 

 

 

 

So why do you make a poll where people can just lie if there are so many videos where people that actually really tried VR in a good setup and with good games share their opinions and expierence on youtube ?

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John2290 said:
Ka-pi96 said:
The VR fanatics are quickly becoming the biggest turnoff of VR...

Would you not buy a console because the userbase are fanatics? Do you own a switch by chance? Your comments about VR are always very much from the point of a jaded old bear, stuck in his ways. Embrace.

It wouldn't make me not buy a console, no. It certainly doesn't make it attractive though. And no, I don't own a Switch. I have no plans to buy one in the foreseeable future either, but it's definitely not something I'd rule out, especially after Pokemon releases.

And at least my comments about VR aren't arrogantly stating things like "this is how games are meant to be played". No, those of us who aren't using VR aren't playing games wrong. Games are meant to be played in whatever way people want to play them. If you only ever want to play them in VR, fine have fun, that doesn't make it true for anyone else though.



Bet Shiken that COD would outsell Battlefield in 2018. http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8749702

Well I love VR but it's nothing new and it is still not has a mass appeal.

I know I am probably one of the older guys but I played VR games in the 90's but people forgot about it because it is always a repeat of the same issues.

Vr helmets  release => the biggest newest games it can't handle so people play demo's or not so demanding games => people hope the next helmets get cheaper => sometimes they get cheaper but again games get more demanding so people end up playing less demanding games. 

The gap is getting smaller but I hope this time it will not end up being a gimmick.






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We don't need Oculus controllers or a more expensive HMD. Motion controls are usually bad for games, hence Oculus controllers are bad for games. VR will take off when it's affordable to the average consumer. Those Oculus controllers make the whole setup too expensive for most people. PS5 will likely use a VR headset that isn't much different than the current PSVR headset. Why? Because the people that already have PSVR will expect PS5 to be compatible with current gen PSVR headsets. This will make the base PSVR userbase much bigger than any other headset used on the system. So even if Sony came out with a PSVR2 to sell with the PS5, the standard PSVR would still work fine.

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I'm just waiting for there to be enough good games that actually utilize VR to its highest potential.



JWeinCom said:
KLAMarine said:

Yes! RE4 on Wii demonstrated how to do motion controls right!

I absolutely LOVE RE4 on Wii and it demonstrated that a pointer function has its uses. It makes perfect sense: a game with aiming in it stands to benefit from a peripheral that can aim.

The only problem I have with Resident Evil 4 on the Wii is that the motion controls are actually too accurate. Getting headshots and knocking knives out of the air becomes trivial.  Don't think that I could have unlocked the handcannon without them though.

But it feels so good to have so much power over masses of undead! They all fall to the mighty Leon boot!

 

Cannot wait for RE4 on Switch. Any day now, Capcom.



Ka-pi96 said:

It wouldn't make me not buy a console, no. It certainly doesn't make it attractive though. And no, I don't own a Switch. I have no plans to buy one in the foreseeable future either, but it's definitely not something I'd rule out, especially after Pokemon releases.

And at least my comments about VR aren't arrogantly stating things like "this is how games are meant to be played". No, those of us who aren't using VR aren't playing games wrong. Games are meant to be played in whatever way people want to play them. If you only ever want to play them in VR, fine have fun, that doesn't make it true for anyone else though.

It definitly is a vastly inferior way to play most games. Just played Skyrim yesterday after a 3 week break (for whatever reason) and it just blew me away right again. its so good its incredible. I kinda feel sorry for the people that cant play this game that way, they are definitly missing out



habam said:
Ka-pi96 said:

It wouldn't make me not buy a console, no. It certainly doesn't make it attractive though. And no, I don't own a Switch. I have no plans to buy one in the foreseeable future either, but it's definitely not something I'd rule out, especially after Pokemon releases.

And at least my comments about VR aren't arrogantly stating things like "this is how games are meant to be played". No, those of us who aren't using VR aren't playing games wrong. Games are meant to be played in whatever way people want to play them. If you only ever want to play them in VR, fine have fun, that doesn't make it true for anyone else though.

It definitly is a vastly inferior way to play most games. Just played Skyrim yesterday after a 3 week break (for whatever reason) and it just blew me away right again. its so good its incredible. I kinda feel sorry for the people that cant play this game that way, they are definitly missing out

I feel sorry for those that don't realise their opinion isn't a fact...



Bet Shiken that COD would outsell Battlefield in 2018. http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8749702