"He didn't force himself on her to gratify himself, I mean he stopped as soon as she said NO."

if i remember correctly he then pressured her to give him a blowjob afterwards

Nope, the crux of the argument is innocent until proven guilty and possible false accusation and slander.

Nope, by what is in the OP, after she said no and he stopped, he asked if she would prefer to be dressed an see TV.

i was wrong this happened

"Ansari wanted to have sex. She said she remembers him asking again and again, “Where do you want me to fuck you?” while she was still seated on the countertop. She says she found the question tough to answer because she says she didn’t want to fuck him at all.

“I wasn’t really even thinking of that, I didn’t want to be engaged in that with him. But he kept asking, so I said, ‘Next time.’"

and then this

Ansari instructed her to turn around. “He sat back and pointed to his penis and motioned for me to go down on him. And I did. I think I just felt really pressured. It was literally the most unexpected thing I thought would happen at that moment because I told him I was uncomfortable.”

so she plainly told him that she was not ready for sex on this date and he continued to pester her until he got a blowjob from her

So "next time" means let's stop all sexual activity and also you seem to have skipped the part that she had done oral before the attempted penetration

It's a witch hunt that needs to whither away and die. It ignores due process and it will do more harm to "coming foward" because it's unjust. 

I decided to read the Babe article instead of relying just on cherry picking. And my perspective has changed a bit.

It should also be noted I assume she's telling the truth.

So my beef with "Grace" is she is treating this as sexual assault, virtually a rape. Quite frankly, it isnt. She was not forced to stay and it sounds like Aziz backed off when she made it clear she wasnt interested. However, in almost comical fashion Aziz would not lay off even after she showed no interest.

I've been in situations where girls wanna kiss, let oral happen, but when it comes to actual sex they back off. Naturally you pursue the sex but at some point you just back off and treat them like a person. Not chase them out of your home in your pursuit of sex.

Hence, Aziz sounds like a creep to me. Maybe it feels like its blurring the lines of sexual assault but I dont feel anything criminal happened because she could leave and blew him. But assuming this is all accurate his reputation deserves a hit. I like pussy as much as the next guy but his behavior shouldnt be excused simply because this isnt rape. Its still gross in my opinion, hes a considerably older man than the girl, have a little class.

On a side note, it seems like Aziz is type of guy he criticizes. This could have been a skit in his comedy about how dude bros dont lay off women for sex. He would be treated as a hero for pointing out this behavior is gross.

Strange enough after all this assault both were hugged watching TV while waiting for the cab and she called after to say she didn't like and he appologize.

And surely enough being a jerk doesn't equal being a rapist... but serves right that someone passing moral judgement all the time falls on it.

Also as in ANY case there are at least 3 PoVs, one for each part and the truth (because even if both people aren't consciously lying they aren't telling the full story from all perspectives)

come on man if you are just about to penetrate a woman and she tells you to stop, you have to comply or else its rape... consent has to be taken into consideration at every stage of a sexual interaction

Maybe my timeline is off but I believe he tried to get sex even while they were watching TV. I was given the impression it all stopped at that point. The media isnt clarifying how aggressive he allegedly was being. It wasnt just a bad date.

I believe he also contacted her first and thats when she clarified she didnt like what happen. The guy sounded oblivious, so maybe its a lie or Aziz is out of touch with women in practice.

So yeah, he may deserve the career hit for this because it sounds like he's a hypocrite.

And he stopped, he didn't penetrate her. If how you put is how it happened then at most he tried to after no penetration but previously having oral return to oral. So no rape, but sure if she had said no (meaning no, or multiple times while he attempted, because yes sometimes people say no but body language and tone shows it is more for sweetness) and he kept forcing his way I would totally agree it was rape.

Career hit no doubt, because on the least he is a scumbag or an idiot. Just don't agree on putting everything as assault or rape because that diminish the impact when it really happens.