Aziz Ansari Is Guilty. Of Not Being a Mind Reader - NYT

[Mr Puggsly]

DonFerrari said:

Mr Puggsly said:

I decided to read the Babe article instead of relying just on cherry picking. And my perspective has changed a bit.

It should also be noted I assume she's telling the truth.

So my beef with "Grace" is she is treating this as sexual assault, virtually a rape. Quite frankly, it isnt. She was not forced to stay and it sounds like Aziz backed off when she made it clear she wasnt interested. However, in almost comical fashion Aziz would not lay off even after she showed no interest.

I've been in situations where girls wanna kiss, let oral happen, but when it comes to actual sex they back off. Naturally you pursue the sex but at some point you just back off and treat them like a person. Not chase them out of your home in your pursuit of sex.

Hence, Aziz sounds like a creep to me. Maybe it feels like its blurring the lines of sexual assault but I dont feel anything criminal happened because she could leave and blew him. But assuming this is all accurate his reputation deserves a hit. I like pussy as much as the next guy but his behavior shouldnt be excused simply because this isnt rape. Its still gross in my opinion, hes a considerably older man than the girl, have a little class.

On a side note, it seems like Aziz is type of guy he criticizes. This could have been a skit in his comedy about how dude bros dont lay off women for sex. He would be treated as a hero for pointing out this behavior is gross.

Strange enough after all this assault both were hugged watching TV while waiting for the cab and she called after to say she didn't like and he appologize.

And surely enough being a jerk doesn't equal being a rapist... but serves right that someone passing moral judgement all the time falls on it.

 

Also as in ANY case there are at least 3 PoVs, one for each part and the truth (because even if both people aren't consciously lying they aren't telling the full story from all perspectives)

Maybe my timeline is off but I believe he tried to get sex even while they were watching TV. I was given the impression it all stopped at that point. The media isnt clarifying how aggressive he allegedly was being. It wasnt just a bad date.

I believe he also contacted her first and thats when she clarified she didnt like what happen. The guy sounded oblivious, so maybe its a lie or Aziz is out of touch with women in practice.

So yeah, he may deserve the career hit for this because it sounds like he's a hypocrite.