Forums - Movies Discussion - Hollywood anti catholic bullshit needs to stop

vivster said:
WolfpackN64 said:

Well, sorry to tell you that your enlightment positivism probably killed more people then Christianity ever did. And when I say science can't prove or disprove God, it's because that's actually very sensible. Sorry that it affects a lot of people negatively, but the vast majority of humanity benefitted from it positively.If you think you can just take a dump on religion without pushback. I'm sick and tired of hardline atheïsts telling me whats good or wrong and what exists or don't. You people don't hold any more truth then we do. And I personally have had a lot of ground to doubt atheïst morals even exist. It always relies on an externel system, often even based on religious morals.

Atheism doesn't have morals or any agenda for that reason. It's a way of thinking based on reality. The rules and agendas made up by atheists are theirs alone. Atheism isn't a religion with a doctrine and people who are atheist are as unique and different as any other person.

The big difference in religion and atheism is within a statement.

Atheism: I think we should do this because my thinking had brought me to that conclusion.

Religion: I think we should do this because there is an invisible man in a cloud watching and judging us.

If there are atheists that are assholes then that's their decision. At least they cannot blame their actions on a higher power and have to be responsible for their actions. Religious assholes however will use some doctrine as an excuse. A doctrine that for some reason is arbitrarily protected from other doctrines.

It seems we won't get along in this topic and I don't want this to dissolve in a shouting match. I wish you all the best anyhow.



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OneTime said:

Re: science proving God doesn’t exist. Science basically has given up proving this.

1. Earth goes round the sun.
2. Universe is older than 4000 years
3. No attempts to contact God have succeeded
4. No attempt to measure God’s affect on the Universe have succeeded
5. Humans evolved like all the other animals
6. Humans therefore unlikely to be in the image of God
 7. Bible was cherry picked from a whole load of scripts
8. Christianity was chosen by Emperor (Saint) Augustine e because he thought a pacifist religion would be preferable to the Roman Gods
9.. Emporer (Saint) Augustine basically presented himself as “the one God”
10. The one god in the burning bush was the God Ra in Egypt

11. Pretty every investigation that has been done has disproved religion...

I've added points to make it easier to reply.

1, 2. Of course

3. If revelation is the only way to come into contact with God, there have been hundreds of times over the centuries. But it's not possible out of your own accord.

4. It's not measurable in a mathematical sence, but the Cosmological argument would hold that his effect on the universe is absolute.

5. Like and unlike, of course.

6. That's a logical fallacy.

7. Not cherry picked, more like composed. Even my own bible's footnotes aknowledges multiple scripts when they were used and which ones are the more probable ones.

8. Constantine and Augustine were two different persons.

9. Constantine and Augustine were two different persons.

10. What? How would you know?

11. What investigation?



Ganoncrotch said:

really doesn't help when things like this are unveiled outside a Catholic School in the later half of 2017 as well....

They really did a good job on the childs hands cupping the bal.... bread, it's bread.....

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/statue-suggestive-saint-child-adelaide-catholic-school-australia-blackfriars-priory-school-simon-a8069071.html

This.... cant be real... is it?



KratosLives said:

Just watched 3 billboards outside Ebbing Missouri, and thought it was a great movie, but one scene pissed me off. Comparing the catholic church to a cripps gang , the fact that a priest belongs to the catholic church, he is partially responsible or apart of some pedofile agenda, even though he had nothing to do with it and as a whole the percentage of mistreatment is so low, in the catholic church. The way the scene was played out, basically a catholic, and there are millions of us, should feel ashamed that we belong to a church. What angers me is that there are so many movies from hollywood that love to bash on catholics. Not anglicans but catholics, and the people behind the script and directing it are jewish americans. Now i have no issues with jewish people, this is strictly a hollywood thing. What i'm trying to understand is why there is this agenda? What has pissed them off so much that they want to show off catholics in a nagative light? Also in the movie they made references not so nice to mexicans/mexico, which happens to be a catholic country. Yet the african americans got so much love in this film. I hope oneday this shit ends, and people take more notice and do something about it. 

I think yes there is a problem with the way catholics are portrayed but I think it actually goes for all christian religions in holywood, TV and media in general. I belong to a not so big christian religion and get a lot of bashing when we are portrayed also.



Christianity (I'll not narrow it down to just Catholicism) just has a very bad track record. Oppression, genocide, pedophilia... even in today's society many lives are being destroyed by the stubborn and oppresive dogmas of the Christian belief.



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Chrizum said:
Christianity (I'll not narrow it down to just Catholicism) just has a very bad track record. Oppression, genocide, pedophilia... even in today's society many lives are being destroyed by the stubborn and oppresive dogmas of the Christian belief.

Many of these things are attributed to christianity, but in history, they often had nothing to do with the faith or the church itself.



The writer and director of this film is neither Jewish nor American. Martin mcdonah has duel citizenship in Ireland and the UK due to being born in London and raised by 2 Irish parents meaning he was most likely raised Catholic. Most of his early work has a strong relation to Ireland a country which in recent years has started to lose faith in the Catholic church due to the many scandals covered up by the church over the years.

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Vincoletto said:
Ganoncrotch said:

really doesn't help when things like this are unveiled outside a Catholic School in the later half of 2017 as well....

They really did a good job on the childs hands cupping the bal.... bread, it's bread.....

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/statue-suggestive-saint-child-adelaide-catholic-school-australia-blackfriars-priory-school-simon-a8069071.html

This.... cant be real... is it?

It is, the statue was quickly removed. It was just a mistake.



VAMatt said:
In fairness, the Catholic church is more like a cult than a gang. But, they certainly have, as an institution, committed countless unspeakable crimes over centuries. The church is due no sympathy. As for individual catholics..... at this point in time, everyone knows of the evils of the church. So, if you wish to continue associating yourself with that organization, you're also due no sympathy.

Every society or group has their own scandals. If yours hasn't come out don't feel like a saint. Too much porn getting people into excitation mode



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"Yet the African Americans got so much love in this film" so, you're upset that blacks are shown in a positive light in the film?