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Chorlin on 04 January 2018
RolStoppable said:
GuyDuke said:

This is mighty impressive.

It is, but here's a secret: Switch isn't the fastest selling video game system in the USA like the thread title wants you to believe.

There's a reason why NIntendo's press release reads "home video game system", so you can figure that the things that got excluded have the real #1. Would it surprise you if I told you that the DS did better than Switch?

No?

But it should. The only video game system that sold faster than Switch in the USA is the Game Boy Advance.

Do you have a source to prove this??
And by how much did the GBA beat the Switch in its first 10 months?



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DonFerrari on 04 January 2018
StarDoor said:
DonFerrari said:

I return to my point that being the first to get it to success doesn't make one the sole one to be able to achieve it.

Or shall we say Sony is the sole one that could have pulled a over 100M console on the market because they were the first one?

No, we wouldn't say that, since Game Boy reached 100 million four years before PS1 did.

Yes sure, the old let's consider HH consoles when it is of convenience... but no issue, why not say Nintendo is the only one capable of selling over 60M because NES was the first?

SuperNova said:
DonFerrari said:

I'm not annoyed and you know he isn't right.

So the premisse to have Switch success is doing all by yourself?? And some other threads we just have people saying how much good relationship Nintendo have with 3rd parties.

I haven't said they never failed or never do good consoles... but the assumption that only Nintendo could make Switch when other companies have done almost the same even before Nintendo is the point that is exagerated.

 

Have he said Nintendo made a great system and dev great games would get no refuttal from me. But his comment is like saying if Einstein wasn't born we wouldn't know about relativity. Or also if he said Nintendo was the first to make a compeling hybrid like Switch I also would have no issue.

That's not what he's saying. None of the other 'switch-like' devices have seen the runaway success that the Switch has been, because none have had the first party support to back it up until third parties jump on board.

Sure, nintendo has done great work with indies in the last 1,5 years and has tried hard to woo AAA third party publishers, going so far as to hand Ubi their most presious IP to work on to secure an exclusive. And they have done this with some success. While Bethesda is showing great support and Rockstar, UBI and 2K moderate support, some, like EA and Capcom, are sluggish to jump onboard to say the least. A console wihtout the first party strenghth of Nintendo behind to drive sales could not have bridged the gaps in third party support still present. Nintendo was able to rely on their IP ad took risks that payed off in a major way with this system, while still working on improving their third party relationships.

Sure thing... and sure MS or Sony if launching a hybrid wouldn't have 3rd party support right? PS1 and X360 could become runaway success even with little first party content and still managed to get third parties onboard.

What you are saying is basically that Nintendo is the only one who could make Switch successful despite not having good relationship with 3rd parties, while the initial point was that Nintendo is the only company that could have made a hybrid console which then changed to be the only one that could make it sucessful and now the first one to make it or the only one that could do it only with 1st party... you are changing the goalpost as much as SpokenTruth is accusting quickrick of.

RolStoppable said:
DonFerrari said:

I return to my point that being the first to get it to success doesn't make one the sole one to be able to achieve it.

Or shall we say Sony is the sole one that could have pulled a over 100M console on the market because they were the first one?

You aren't proposing a comparable scenario. The question is really simple: Do you believe that a company other than Nintendo could have created a console like Switch that diverts from the established norm and make it a resounding success?

If yes, you must name the companies you believe could have pulled it off. If no, you should concede the point.

Yes I do. You know Sony or Apple could have done it if that was their idea or objective. Wouldn't be exactly like Nintendo made it, but they could make a sucessful hybrid console.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

zorg1000 on 04 January 2018
DonFerrari said:
StarDoor said:

No, we wouldn't say that, since Game Boy reached 100 million four years before PS1 did.

Yes sure, the old let's consider HH consoles when it is of convenience

This my friend is called cherry picking



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.

Jranation on 04 January 2018
kazuyamishima said:
Those numbers are really impressive.

But knowing the background of Nintendo, I don't know if they will support the system for many years. Also, the hardware in a few years will be really outpaced by the Ps5/Next Xbox, this means that the ports for the games released in those consoles will not be possible on the switch. Exclusive games will need to be make.

Nintendo Released the Big hitters in 2017: Zelda, Mario kart, Super Mario Odyssey, Splatoon, Xenoblade. I know I know that Pokemon and Metroid and a few more are pending. But the gap between each main game is like 3-5 years.

The difference about Nintendo now is that they will only have to support 1 product. All Nintendo developers will only make games for the Switch. Unlike the Wii & DS / Wii U & 3DS



Pocky Lover Boy! 

John19 on 04 January 2018
DonFerrari said:
John19 said:

Doesn't change the fact that it was heavily supply constrained for the entire month, and it most likely could have done more if more had been shipped

Same for PS4 and even X1, your point?

Uhm, yeah? My point was literally just that the Switch was heavily supply constrained in its launch month, don't really know what's so hard to understand about that



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DonFerrari on 04 January 2018
zorg1000 said:
DonFerrari said:

Yes sure, the old let's consider HH consoles when it is of convenience

This my friend is called cherry picking

And claiming only Nintendo could make a hybrid by ignoring what came earlier is what?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari on 04 January 2018
John19 said:
DonFerrari said:

Same for PS4 and even X1, your point?

Uhm, yeah? My point was literally just that the Switch was heavily supply constrained in its launch month, don't really know what's so hard to understand about that

Almost all consoles are supply constrained on launch, so that is hard to see why it's relevant.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Teriol on 04 January 2018
SpokenTruth said:
Dead on arrival.
Dead after launch window.
Dead after game X.
Dead after 2017.

The goalposts have legs almost as good as Nintendo games themselves do.

Yes, move the goals so we can never be wrong (all haters on the thread) LOL



34 years playing games.

 

John19 on 04 January 2018
DonFerrari said:
John19 said:

Uhm, yeah? My point was literally just that the Switch was heavily supply constrained in its launch month, don't really know what's so hard to understand about that

Almost all consoles are supply constrained on launch, so that is hard to see why it's relevant.

I'm not claiming the Switch was the only supply constrained console. I was simply saying that it had a supply constrained month, not a well stocked one, and that it could have sold more if more had been shipped



quickrick on 04 January 2018
John19 said:
DonFerrari said:

Same for PS4 and even X1, your point?

Uhm, yeah? My point was literally just that the Switch was heavily supply constrained in its launch month, don't really know what's so hard to understand about that

ps4 was supply limited because of it's launch, but it's launch month was the holidays get the point? being supply supply limited at launch is the norm for a highly demanded console, but when it's a holiday launch it hurts sales a lot more, basically missing out on the holiday period.