Nintendo Switch has become the fastest selling video game system of all time in the US

[DonFerrari]

StarDoor said:

DonFerrari said:

I return to my point that being the first to get it to success doesn't make one the sole one to be able to achieve it.

Or shall we say Sony is the sole one that could have pulled a over 100M console on the market because they were the first one?

No, we wouldn't say that, since Game Boy reached 100 million four years before PS1 did.

Yes sure, the old let's consider HH consoles when it is of convenience... but no issue, why not say Nintendo is the only one capable of selling over 60M because NES was the first?

SuperNova said:

DonFerrari said:

I'm not annoyed and you know he isn't right.

So the premisse to have Switch success is doing all by yourself?? And some other threads we just have people saying how much good relationship Nintendo have with 3rd parties.

I haven't said they never failed or never do good consoles... but the assumption that only Nintendo could make Switch when other companies have done almost the same even before Nintendo is the point that is exagerated.

 

Have he said Nintendo made a great system and dev great games would get no refuttal from me. But his comment is like saying if Einstein wasn't born we wouldn't know about relativity. Or also if he said Nintendo was the first to make a compeling hybrid like Switch I also would have no issue.

That's not what he's saying. None of the other 'switch-like' devices have seen the runaway success that the Switch has been, because none have had the first party support to back it up until third parties jump on board.

Sure, nintendo has done great work with indies in the last 1,5 years and has tried hard to woo AAA third party publishers, going so far as to hand Ubi their most presious IP to work on to secure an exclusive. And they have done this with some success. While Bethesda is showing great support and Rockstar, UBI and 2K moderate support, some, like EA and Capcom, are sluggish to jump onboard to say the least. A console wihtout the first party strenghth of Nintendo behind to drive sales could not have bridged the gaps in third party support still present. Nintendo was able to rely on their IP ad took risks that payed off in a major way with this system, while still working on improving their third party relationships.

Sure thing... and sure MS or Sony if launching a hybrid wouldn't have 3rd party support right? PS1 and X360 could become runaway success even with little first party content and still managed to get third parties onboard.

What you are saying is basically that Nintendo is the only one who could make Switch successful despite not having good relationship with 3rd parties, while the initial point was that Nintendo is the only company that could have made a hybrid console which then changed to be the only one that could make it sucessful and now the first one to make it or the only one that could do it only with 1st party... you are changing the goalpost as much as SpokenTruth is accusting quickrick of.

RolStoppable said:

DonFerrari said:

I return to my point that being the first to get it to success doesn't make one the sole one to be able to achieve it.

Or shall we say Sony is the sole one that could have pulled a over 100M console on the market because they were the first one?

You aren't proposing a comparable scenario. The question is really simple: Do you believe that a company other than Nintendo could have created a console like Switch that diverts from the established norm and make it a resounding success?

If yes, you must name the companies you believe could have pulled it off. If no, you should concede the point.

Yes I do. You know Sony or Apple could have done it if that was their idea or objective. Wouldn't be exactly like Nintendo made it, but they could make a sucessful hybrid console.