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Forums - Sales Discussion - Global Weekly, 11th November 2017, Hardware

DonFerrari on 20 December 2017
peachbuggy said:
ArchangelMadzz said:

VGC has switch at 8.5m as of 11th November. Nintendo said Switch is 10m on the 12th December. Seems pretty good to me, if anything Switch is overtracked.

My point is, the Switch doesn't seem to be getting a seasonal boost, from those numbers. I'm aware Nintendo made the announcement on the 12th. All i'm saying is those figures weren't necessarily for up to that exact date. If anything,it would take at least a few days for the numbers to filter through to Nintendo and Nintendo gave no date as to when the figures were from. If they were from an earlier date, then that would explain why Nintendo doesn't seem to be getting a seasonal boost with the Switch yet on this site.

We have Zughex number of days for Switch first 10M, was like 1 week more time than PS4.

Mar1217 said:
Intrinsic said:

Switch is at 10M as of decmber 10th... so basically VGC has 1.5M sales to allocate in the next 4 weeks. If anything that could mean the current numbers for the switch are overtracked.  

The PS4 was at 70.6M as of december 3rd., which means that right now VGC has to allocate 3.4M sales over the next 3 weeks. If anything that means the PS4 to this point may be undertracked.

- Your date is only based on an educated guess ... but we're probably never going to get an exact date as to when it sold the 10M amount accurently either ...

CGI-Quality said:

I don't think the Xbox One X can be called a success nor failure at this time. I still remember the release buzz surrounding the Kinect - how it was the "fastest-selling consumer electronics device ever" and the like. Seven years later, it's like Microsoft wants to forget it ever existed.

Not saying that the X will follow suit, but I don't think a console's (iterative or otherwise) launch numbers mean it's a guaranteed success. I'm hoping that it and the Pro are mere one-offs and next gen sees no such device(s)

If their next gen console are only getting to sub 10TF and substantial better CPUs, then I'm pretty sure it will happen again.

We can user Zughex days to 10M to estimate the date for it.



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peachbuggy on 20 December 2017
DonFerrari said:
peachbuggy said:

My point is, the Switch doesn't seem to be getting a seasonal boost, from those numbers. I'm aware Nintendo made the announcement on the 12th. All i'm saying is those figures weren't necessarily for up to that exact date. If anything,it would take at least a few days for the numbers to filter through to Nintendo and Nintendo gave no date as to when the figures were from. If they were from an earlier date, then that would explain why Nintendo doesn't seem to be getting a seasonal boost with the Switch yet on this site.

We have Zughex number of days for Switch first 10M, was like 1 week more time than PS4.

Mar1217 said:

- Your date is only based on an educated guess ... but we're probably never going to get an exact date as to when it sold the 10M amount accurently either ...

If their next gen console are only getting to sub 10TF and substantial better CPUs, then I'm pretty sure it will happen again.

We can user Zughex days to 10M to estimate the date for it.

Not sure how he would know but from his estimation when was it then? I guess he's the best we have atm.



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reviniente on 20 December 2017
ithis said:
Barkley said:

No idea, can't find the Nov 4th numbers for some reason, CoD launched the 3rd so the majority of that boost should have been last week. Don't remember any deals this early either.

I think there were a bunch of deals to counter the XBOX launch, weren't there?

Yes, in the UK at least.



DonFerrari on 20 December 2017
Mar1217 said:
DonFerrari said:

We have Zughex number of days for Switch first 10M, was like 1 week more time than PS4.

We can user Zughex days to 10M to estimate the date for it.

Damn, did Zughex become a sacred god or what xD I would prefer Ninty's word but I'll settle witht his instead :)

Unless anyone can prove he is lying or just making estimatives then we can say he isn't right. But at the moment it's the most precise info we have =]

peachbuggy said:
DonFerrari said:

We have Zughex number of days for Switch first 10M, was like 1 week more time than PS4.

We can user Zughex days to 10M to estimate the date for it.

Not sure how he would know but from his estimation when was it then? I guess he's the best we have atm.

On december 12th he posted that Switch took 275 days to sell 10M. Since it launched on March 3rd which gives us December 3rd.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

zorg1000 on 20 December 2017
Zekkyou said:
zorg1000 said:
Im sure others have pointed it out but PS4 sales seem way too high, especially in America, considering a $100 price cut is right around the corner.

When was the $100 price cut announced?

I just looked it up, officially announced by Sony on Nov 10 with various store ads leaking 1-2 weeks earlier.

So i guess its next week numbers that should be lower.



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Mr Puggsly on 20 December 2017
DonFerrari said:
Megiddo said:
I'm really interested in the Rest of the World stats that are somewhat hidden in these numbers.

For instance, despite the Xbox One and PS4 practically being tied in overall, the PS4 more than doubled Xbox One sales in the Rest of the World (165k for PS4 to 81k for X1). Nintendo's share of Rest of the World is proportionally very similar to Xbox One (35k), so what is the PS4 doing so well to give it the upper hand over the other 2 in the Rest of the World?

Wha is PS4 doing so well? Sales. RoW and Europe have been consistently PS dominated territories.

Pinkie_pie said:

That was npd. Worldwide, xbox one probably sold more

Yes X1 will sell more WW than on USA, but when not even outselling PS4 in USA it have 0 probability of WW outselling.

Unless this is a reverse case of globally in USA.

Mr Puggsly said:

Not bad, X1X plays the same content but its evident there is an audience for premium specs. Should also encourage optimization for X1X.

Maybe this could be X1's best year thus far. People claimed X1 was declining but its been stable.

But it have been declining, YOY down for the full year before X1X released. And probably will be down YOY next year.

Darwinianevolution said:
Holy shit, XBox sold 1k in Japan. When was the last time that happened?

But really, great week for the XBOne X, even though I fear its sales will mostly come during its first months, will be very front-loaded.

Unprecedented growth on Japan for X1.

But was also up from the year prior, so again its been steady. This may be one of X1's better years if not its best.



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AlfredoTurkey on 20 December 2017
weraru_1 said:
kazuyamishima said:
But the Switch is cannibalizing the PS4, right? Right?                             

Yeah, but who ever said that? By going on this website, everyone can clearly see that the PS4 has sold the most globally almost every week since the Switch launched outside of a major game release.

The PS4 loses two out of three territories almost every month lol. The only reason is wins WW is because of one super strong territory.



fatslob-:O on 20 December 2017
Mar1217 said:

I hate to admit it ... but you know Rotw (Rest of the world) still counts ?

This especially, PS4 could match the heights of PS2 and go to sell over 25M units in other markets or there's a possibility that it can even beat the PS2 comfortably considering economic conditions in those territories ... 

There's lot's of room left for PS4 to grow when it reaches $149 ... 



pastro243 on 20 December 2017
AlfredoTurkey said:
weraru_1 said:

Yeah, but who ever said that? By going on this website, everyone can clearly see that the PS4 has sold the most globally almost every week since the Switch launched outside of a major game release.

The PS4 loses two out of three territories almost every month lol. The only reason is wins WW is because of one super strong territory.

- Ps4 will still be 1st on yearly sales in usa despite loosing a few months

- "one super strong territory" meaning the world-japan? 



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quickrick on 21 December 2017
AlfredoTurkey said:
weraru_1 said:

Yeah, but who ever said that? By going on this website, everyone can clearly see that the PS4 has sold the most globally almost every week since the Switch launched outside of a major game release.

The PS4 loses two out of three territories almost every month lol. The only reason is wins WW is because of one super strong territory.

ps4 is not losing anywhere, except japan. its gonna beat switch in the USA, by at least 800k this year.