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Forums - Sales Discussion - Global Weekly, 11th November 2017, Hardware

DonFerrari on 21 December 2017
Mr Puggsly said:
DonFerrari said:

Wha is PS4 doing so well? Sales. RoW and Europe have been consistently PS dominated territories.

Yes X1 will sell more WW than on USA, but when not even outselling PS4 in USA it have 0 probability of WW outselling.

Unless this is a reverse case of globally in USA.

But it have been declining, YOY down for the full year before X1X released. And probably will be down YOY next year.

Unprecedented growth on Japan for X1.

But was also up from the year prior, so again its been steady. This may be one of X1's better years if not its best.

And that is how peaks work. Not saying X1 falled from the cliff this year, just that it's down, not flat, to be considered stable. But sure the end of year is helping prolong the high level sales.

AlfredoTurkey said:
weraru_1 said:

Yeah, but who ever said that? By going on this website, everyone can clearly see that the PS4 has sold the most globally almost every week since the Switch launched outside of a major game release.

The PS4 loses two out of three territories almost every month lol. The only reason is wins WW is because of one super strong territory.

As others said, that ONE super strong territory is what covers 95% of the world?

pastro243 said:
AlfredoTurkey said:

The PS4 loses two out of three territories almost every month lol. The only reason is wins WW is because of one super strong territory.

- Ps4 will still be 1st on yearly sales in usa despite loosing a few months

- "one super strong territory" meaning the world-japan? 

Yep, globally outside of Japan.



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Mr Puggsly on 21 December 2017

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Mr Puggsly on 21 December 2017
DonFerrari said:
Mr Puggsly said:

But was also up from the year prior, so again its been steady. This may be one of X1's better years if not its best.

And that is how peaks work. Not saying X1 falled from the cliff this year, just that it's down, not flat, to be considered stable. But sure the end of year is helping prolong the high level sales.

Holiday is always when Xbox thrives.

If the decline YoY is a relatively small percentage, thats stable. Especially when some increase happens the year after. Hence, its stable because its not going strongly in any direction. Stable doesent have to mean perfectly flat numbers.

Anywho, this is semantics.



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DonFerrari on 21 December 2017
Mr Puggsly said:
DonFerrari said:

And that is how peaks work. Not saying X1 falled from the cliff this year, just that it's down, not flat, to be considered stable. But sure the end of year is helping prolong the high level sales.

Holiday is always when Xbox thrives.

If the decline YoY is a relatively small percentage, thats stable. Especially when some increase happens the year after. Hence, its stable because its not going strongly in any direction. Stable doesent have to mean perfectly flat numbers.

Anywho, this is semantics.

Yep, holiday is strong for X1. For that reason on my prediction for BF I said X1 could win even though PS4 was rising YOY and both had deep price cuts.

Sure, if closing december 2015-16-17 totals are near I consider stable/flat, But the fact that November was very high doesn't give certainty to December. I was going more on the X1 being a lot down YOY up to November, but sure it can recover for December, but either way I think 2018 will be lower. But who knows, X1X can hit a stride and make 2018 bigger than the previous year. MS managed a second peak with Kinect why not with X1X?



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http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Intrinsic on 21 December 2017
Mr Puggsly said:
DonFerrari said:

And that is how peaks work. Not saying X1 falled from the cliff this year, just that it's down, not flat, to be considered stable. But sure the end of year is helping prolong the high level sales.

Holiday is always when Xbox thrives.

If the decline YoY is a relatively small percentage, thats stable. Especially when some increase happens the year after. Hence, its stable because its not going strongly in any direction. Stable doesent have to mean perfectly flat numbers.

Anywho, this is semantics.

Stable is flat.

A decline is a drop YOY.

An increase is a rise YOY.

Stop moving the posts or misconstruing words to suit your narrative.



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Mr Puggsly on 22 December 2017
Intrinsic said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Holiday is always when Xbox thrives.

If the decline YoY is a relatively small percentage, thats stable. Especially when some increase happens the year after. Hence, its stable because its not going strongly in any direction. Stable doesent have to mean perfectly flat numbers.

Anywho, this is semantics.

Stable is flat.

A decline is a drop YOY.

An increase is a rise YOY.

Stop moving the posts or misconstruing words to suit your narrative.

No. Its been pretty stable.



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Mr Puggsly on 22 December 2017
DonFerrari said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Holiday is always when Xbox thrives.

If the decline YoY is a relatively small percentage, thats stable. Especially when some increase happens the year after. Hence, its stable because its not going strongly in any direction. Stable doesent have to mean perfectly flat numbers.

Anywho, this is semantics.

Yep, holiday is strong for X1. For that reason on my prediction for BF I said X1 could win even though PS4 was rising YOY and both had deep price cuts.

Sure, if closing december 2015-16-17 totals are near I consider stable/flat, But the fact that November was very high doesn't give certainty to December. I was going more on the X1 being a lot down YOY up to November, but sure it can recover for December, but either way I think 2018 will be lower. But who knows, X1X can hit a stride and make 2018 bigger than the previous year. MS managed a second peak with Kinect why not with X1X?

The 360's success with Kinect was an anomaly.

2018 could see decline IF this is an exceptional year. But again, if its averagng about 8 million through the gen, thats stable and viable.



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adisababa on 22 December 2017

The switch sales are quite disappointing, it isn't really having a good first year compared to consoles that have been on the shelves for 3 years.

Looks like the hype is most certainly fading, except for Japan, it looks like the Switch will probably fade in Europe and in America too.



barneystinson69 on 22 December 2017

Was pretty shocked to see the XB1 #1 WW, only to realize this is because of the One X launch.

Still nice to see the console will have more than 1 week this gen on the top of the world.



Made a bet with LipeJJ and HylianYoshi that the XB1 will reach 30 million before Wii U reaches 15 million. Loser has to get avatar picked by winner for 6 months (or if I lose, either 6 months avatar control for both Lipe and Hylian, or my patrick avatar comes back forever).

Oneeee-Chan!!! on 22 December 2017
barneystinson69 said:

Was pretty shocked to see the XB1 #1 WW, only to realize this is because of the One X launch.

Still nice to see the console will have more than 1 week this gen on the top of the world.