Your going to use that now? We were talking about the entire week if ps4 sales are being taking away by the switch. You never mention this intill now.

All i ask is what does ps4 have to sell in your opinion to not be affected by switch sales in dec. Having different libraries of software doesnt change the fact that they are both hardware of videogames

Edit: so what your saying is for example ps4 sells 100k (its not gonna sell that low using for reference) for all of dec, your gonna say it wasmt affected by switch?

Ok fine, only thing i get from your replies are "ps4 sales arent affected by switch and no matter how low ps4 sells get it doesnt mean switch is taking away from it".

In other words no one can prove you otherwise? Guess ill end it there (asking you), but imo if ps4 doesn't sell lets say higher or close to 300k for the holidays then switch definetly affected sales. I dont get why you made that thread (that was locked) if the subject wasnt even arguable for you!

Anyways ps4 should be up 2014/2015 holidays

Ok fine, only thing i get from your replies are "ps4 sales arent affected by switch and no matter how low ps4 sells get it doesnt mean switch is taking away from it".

In other words no one can prove you otherwise? Guess ill end it there (asking you), but imo if ps4 doesn't sell lets say higher or close to 300k for the holidays then switch definetly affected sales. I dont get why you made that thread (that was locked) if the subject wasnt even arguable for you!

Anyways ps4 should be up 2014/2015 holidays

I mal maintained 'll week switch wasn't taking it's sales. I never said why. So it's not like I changed my opinion. Switch and ps4 avoid each other pretty well.

IMO Switch is not taking away sales from PS4 just yet. If you will see chart the best seller in Switch are all Nintendo games. Right now it is selling because of the Nintendo games: Zelda, Mario, Splatoon 2 and etc. If I am a Nintendo fan from Japan. Switch is a very appealing hardware for me. Zelda, Mario, Splatoon 2. Those 3 games was release in under 1 year.  Those are big games from Nintendo. Switch launch year in terms of 1st party is massive. Also, with Switch being out of stock all the time then there's this urge that I will want it more. I have the money. I am a Nintendo fan but I cannot buy it. The more that I will want it more. 

I mentioned on my long post that 2018 will be the real test because so far PS4 is just selling like PS4 just take a look at Takoyaki's post. PS4 is selling normally on the first week of November. If the main argument is it's down YOY from last year you have to factor in that PRO was release last year. Slim was release last year and Week 48 will be FFXV week last year. Switch is just doing amazing and right it's not affecting anything other than WiiU and 3DS. Did we just ignore the 20 Million who bought 3DS and wanting to upgrade to the new handheld? The people who bought WiiU for Splatoon and wanting to play it? The Mario fans that want to play the new Mario game? 

Why only Q4? Many PS4 owners might be waiting until a big game like MHW releases. Which isn't until Q1 2018.

FFXV clearly boosted it last year, and DQXI had a good effect this year, but that boost has already passed. MHW will be 2018 boost.

Since PS4 sold 200k and 250k without FFXV, I think that is the current standard. But obviously PS4 will have a big January with New Years and MHW.

Edit: I also don't understand how many weeks are left and when exactly they end since some years have 53 weeks and end past new years, and some 52 weeks and end before new years.

But thats point, you can buy Switch for Mario Odyysey, Mario Kart or Splatoon 2 even if you are not Nintendo fan because great reception and popularity of those games, huge Switch hype in Japan, or portability of Switch, and Switch is also home console in same time like PS4. Point that Switch are buying only Nintendo fans in Japan is wrong. If some person can buy only one console for holiday season, its not hard to imagine that they can easily choose Switch over PS4 because things I mentioned, and that wasn't case last year when Switch wasn't on market. Switch definitely affecting on PS4 sales in Japan.

PS4 this year will be well ahead YOY in every market in world, but only in Japan there is chance that will not be YOY.

Because we talking about hole years sales and only 5 weeks of sales left in this year.

Ok fine, only thing i get from your replies are "ps4 sales arent affected by switch and no matter how low ps4 sells get it doesnt mean switch is taking away from it".

In other words no one can prove you otherwise? Guess ill end it there (asking you), but imo if ps4 doesn't sell lets say higher or close to 300k for the holidays then switch definetly affected sales. I dont get why you made that thread (that was locked) if the subject wasnt even arguable for you!

Anyways ps4 should be up 2014/2015 holidays

But thats point, you can buy Switch for Mario Odyysey, Mario Kart or Splatoon 2 even if you are not Nintendo fan because great reception and popularity of those games, huge Switch hype in Japan, or portability of Switch, and Switch is also home console in same time like PS4. Point that Switch are buying only Nintendo fans in Japan is wrong. If some person can buy only one console for holiday season, its not hard to imagine that they can easily choose Switch over PS4 because things I mentioned, and that wasn't case last year when Switch wasn't on market. Switch definitely affecting on PS4 sales in Japan.

PS4 this year will be well ahead YOY in every market in world, but only in Japan there is chance that will not be YOY.

Plot twist. Because switch stock isn't enough to meet demand, some gamers who can only buy 1 console but can't get a switch are choosing ps4 instead. 

Ps4 cannibalizing switch sales confirmed?

Switch wasn't available all year. If you want to use full year then use March to March.