zorg1000 said:
If ifs and buts were candies and nuts we'd all have a merry Christmas |
Exactly. If those buts they I just mentioned were this year instead ps4 would be having a merry Christmas right now.
What I just said is a valid analysis of the current situation. Ps4 doesn't have those things this year to inflate it's October and November higher then it's normal numbers.
Kerotan said:
Exactly. If those buts they I just mentioned were this year instead ps4 would be having a merry Christmas right now.
What I just said is a valid analysis of the current situation. Ps4 doesn't have those things this year to inflate it's October and November higher then it's normal numbers. |
If you need 2 revisions, a price cut and a million selling franchise to have a good holiday than that tells you how poor the market is for PS4.
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zorg1000 said:
If you need 2 revisions, a price cut and a million selling franchise to have a good holiday than that tells you how poor the market is for PS4. |
ps4 has not been succesful in Japan since launch.
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zorg1000 said:
If you need 2 revisions, a price cut and a million selling franchise to have a good holiday than that tells you how poor the market is for PS4. |
Yeah but we are not discussing how poor the market is for home consoles. We are discussing why ps4 sells more 1 quarter compared to another.
And we know it's not good. Since the ps2 days no home console has come anywhere near 20m. It's now a ~10m market.
Farsala said:
Why only Q4? Many PS4 owners might be waiting until a big game like MHW releases. Which isn't until Q1 2018. FFXV clearly boosted it last year, and DQXI had a good effect this year, but that boost has already passed. MHW will be 2018 boost. Since PS4 sold 200k and 250k without FFXV, I think that is the current standard. But obviously PS4 will have a big January with New Years and MHW. Edit: I also don't understand how many weeks are left and when exactly they end since some years have 53 weeks and end past new years, and some 52 weeks and end before new years. |
Because we talking about hole years sales and only 5 weeks of sales left in this year.
Kerotan said:
Yeah but we are not discussing how poor the market is for home consoles. We are discussing why ps4 sells more 1 quarter compared to another.
And we know it's not good. Since the ps2 days no home console has come anywhere near 20m. It's now a ~10m market. |
How much does ps4 need to sell in these last 5 weeks of holiday for it to be considered not affected by switch sales? That was the arguement in the beginning afterall.
To have some comparisons...
2014: 200k
2015: 250k
2016: 475k
2017: ???
tbone51 said:
How much does ps4 need to sell in these last 5 weeks of holiday for it to be considered not affected by switch sales? That was the arguement in the beginning afterall.
To have some comparisons...
2014: 200k 2015: 250k 2016: 475k 2017: ??? |
Ps4 sales are affected by what releases on it. 90% of its library is not shared in Japan with switch.
Kerotan said:
Ps4 sales are affected by what releases on it. 90% of its library is not shared in Japan with switch. |
Your going to use that now? We were talking about the entire week if ps4 sales are being taking away by the switch. You never mention this intill now.
All i ask is what does ps4 have to sell in your opinion to not be affected by switch sales in dec. Having different libraries of software doesnt change the fact that they are both hardware of videogames
Edit: so what your saying is for example ps4 sells 100k (its not gonna sell that low using for reference) for all of dec, your gonna say it wasmt affected by switch?
tbone51 said:
Your going to use that now? We were talking about the entire week if ps4 sales are being taking away by the switch. You never mention this intill now.
All i ask is what does ps4 have to sell in your opinion to not be affected by switch sales in dec. Having different libraries of software doesnt change the fact that they are both hardware of videogames
Edit: so what your saying is for example ps4 sells 100k (its not gonna sell that low using for reference) for all of dec, your gonna say it wasmt affected by switch? |
I mal maintained 'll week switch wasn't taking it's sales. I never said why. So it's not like I changed my opinion. Switch and ps4 avoid each other pretty well.
2017...1,492,789 2016...1,325,596
2017PS4 2016PS4 Gap
November
W1 1,413,520（*28,823） 1,153,124（*32,041） 260,396
W2 1,439,578（*26,058） 1,245,468（*92,344） 194,110
W3 1,465,880（*26,302） 1,283,494（*38,026） 182,386
W4 1,492,789（*26,909） 1,325,596（*42,102） 167,193
December
W1 -,---,---（---,---） 1,443,946（118,350） ---,---
W2 -,---,---（---,---） 1,536,663（*92,717） ---,---
W3 -,---,---（---,---） 1,616,011（*79,348） ---,---
W4 -,---,---（---,---） 1,716,249（100,238） ---,---
W5 -,---,---（---,---） 1,799,586（*83,337） ---,---
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